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Nevermore Activated Carbon Filters - Micro Edition

Nevermore Micro V5 Duo (dual fan)

Nevermore Activated Carbon Filter Micro V5 Duo

Nevermore Micro V4 (single fan)

Nevermore Activated Carbon Filter Micro V4

Originally intended as a carbon fume filter for Voron V2, it has found its way into a multitude of other machines. Let yours be the next! Bad smells or fumes, or complaints thereof, should not keep you from being a maker!

About The Nevermore Micro

VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds) are common in daily life but VOCs generated from 3D printing are known to cause severe health issues and even cause cancer in some cases.

Emitted VOCs

A study from 2013 of ultrafine particle emissions from desktop 3D printers (2013) is a good start to understand the importance of your filament choices and the printer's environment.

Characterization of volatile organic compound emissions from consumer level material extrusion 3D printers (2019) (credit: Characterization of volatile organic compound emissions from consumer level material extrusion 3D printers (2019))

Characterization of particulate and gaseous pollutants emitted during operation of a desktop 3D printer (2019) (credit: Characterization of particulate and gaseous pollutants emitted during operation of a desktop 3D printer (2019))

Why The Nevermore?

At the end of the day, a fresh single-pass filtered exhaust (at brand new) has perhaps 70% VOC removal efficiency while still exhausting 30% of the nasty. A worn-in 50% efficiency recirculation filter achieving four passes would still remove 94% of the bad stuff. Or 99% at six passes!

The number of passes you get all depends on how well you can seal your build chamber.

Some will have a hard time achieving a good chamber seal, which creates the biggest drawback of recirculation filters - they're air flow neutral. Meaning, as nothing pulls air into the chamber, air can diffuse freely to the outside through any remaining gaps. And that air could be zero-per-cent cleaned...

If you plan on using only a Nevermore - be sure to seal your chamber as good as possible to prevent diffusing.

Nevermore Background

There are many options for 3d printing air filters. Here’s a short list, and why I eventually settled on creating Nevermore:

1. Home air purifiers

PRO: Plug and play! High air flow (mostly). Will filter most particles a 3d printer produces.

CON: ABS headaches are not from particles, but Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs), that are two orders of magnitude smaller than any particles a HEPA or ULPA could trap - they’re essentially gasses.

While home purifiers typically also contains carbon filtration and/or photocatlytic UV filtration stages, they will still not be suitable for 3d printing. Why? Efficient carbon adsorption in sufficient amount and stages is an absolute airflow killer, so most purifiers contain only a thin layer of carbon mesh/pellets that will be fully adsorbed within days or weeks at full power. And even if the filter is not used, contact with air saturates the carbon in 1-2 months. Yet they’re advertised as lasting for 6 months – that's only true for the HEPA component, not the VOC adsorbant carbon we're after.

And replacement filters typically run 20-60 USD a pop. Quite a lot for changing every few weeks when the carbon component depletes.

UV photocatalyst activity can last though; however, breakdown is slow and inefficient with voc halflives of several hours. The TiO2 layer reacting to the UV will also easily get irreversibly blocked by silicates (of which there are a lot in peoples homes, in everything from sink and bathroom sealants to plaster walls). And breakdown will many times be incomplete. Styrene passing a PCO filter might get turned to even more dangerous benzene, for instance.

2. Carbon/HEPA filter combinations like the Zortrax M Series HEPA Filters

Same as above. The HEPA component will keep working, but the carbon is just a few pebbles per hex. It could provide partial VOC clearance when fresh, but will quickly deplete with air flow. Then you need to replace it for 36 USD after a week of printing.

3. Wet scrubber

Awesome for both particles and VOCs, but its an industrial solution with any smaller home versions plagued by loud noise, water leakage and mechanical issues. It's not a solution for the masses.

So, how about Nevermore?

Well, the carbon in those filters mentioned above, costing a lot for little duration is actually dirt cheap. Whereas you get 20 grams for 36 USD with a zortax filter, you can get 5000 grams for 36 USD in bulk.

And with an enclosed chamber, you don't need the air flow of a room-size air purifier. Even a 350mm V2 Voron only holds about 5cf, meaning even a partial flow from a 5015 fan of 0.5-2cfm is enough to filter the fumes efficiently at the source.

So what are we waiting for? We got lots of cheap carbon. We can replace it easily. We don't need high airflow to clean a small chamber. We deal with poor efficiency of one-pass carbon filters by multiplying the amount and recirculate the air.

Enter, The Nevermore.

Nevermore V4, First Release

Nevermore V4 is a refinement of the V3. V4 adds a air guides, as the previous versions had the majority of air flow on just one side of the filter (most recent version has all supports removed yet again!). The cartridge lid also mounts a bit sturdier, and V4 now has separate base pieces for use with Vorons other than 2.4.

Nevermore Micro V2 Prototype

The V4 was the first official release of the Nevermore Micro to the public.

Nevermore V5 Duo

Following the V4, the V5 Duo was released that changes the direction of air flow, better suited for when the Nevermore Micro would be placed flat on the bottom or top of the printer. Though there are other "outlet" options, like for the V1.8/Trident style that blows outwards and not up.

The V5 Duo also adds a 2nd additional 5015.

Nevermore Micro V5 Duo

Nevermore Micro V5 Duo

(Nevermore V5 Duo. used with permission from Tightwad(JT)#6055)

This repository hosts both versions, as they are the same in design and function.

FAQs

What are differences between V4 and V5 Duo?

The current NM Micro versions are V4 and V5 Duo.

V4 utilizes a single dissected 5015 fan that is glued in place to spread the airflow over the entire filter surface (something impossible to do with an intact scroll, which focuses the air too much). The intake is on the top, and exhausts out the front.

V5 Duo uses two blowers in parallel to achieve a more even spread of airflow while keeping the pressure-generating scrolls intact; however, it still needs some slight modifications to the scroll exhaust. The intake is on the top, and exhausts upwards.

Why use a single fan version, if dual is better?

Dual is not better. The area per blower is halved, so what is gained in air flow is lost in increased restriction per blower. There should be some improvements though, from linear air flow and intact scroll.

Also, the V4 single fan version may be better suited for printers where the Micro has to be mounted vertically, like on the side of a Voron V0.

Voron V0.1 with Nevermore V4

(Voron V0.1 w/Nevermore V4. used with permission from DoubleT#0448)

The single fan version of the V4 design in the Voron V0 above would draw the air from under the build plate, and exhaust it upwards, creating a circulation flow within the printer.

Air circulation is critical to filter as much of the VOCs within the build chamber as possible. Not only that, but it would help heat the chamber faster and achieve higher chamber temps.

However, on a Voron V2 or similar printer, the V5 Duo version would be better suited when placed under the bed as the upward exhaust venting creates a good circulation effect.

(Voron V2 w/Nevermore V5. used with permission from Laserbeak43#2729)

What other changes does V5 bring?

  • Exhausts air upwards
    • Better heat spread in the Voron V2 chamber
    • Less air leaks through Voron V2 split doors
  • BOM 6x3 magnets are standard
  • Blower fans are seated by bolts again, with less modifications needed

What fans should I use?

Aim for any 5015 blower with a rating above 200Pa / 20mmH2O / 1 inH2O.

Since the fan (probably) cant be reused for other projects and will function in a high temp environment affecting its lifetime, go for budget. The Sunon Maglev MF50151VX (12V) / MF50152VX (24V) (high speed version, 6000 rpm) is good but unfortunately almost impossible to find as most are fakes. The GDStime 6000rpm Dual Ball bearing is another good option, but quality may vary. The Delta BFB0524HH is a gucci option, as is the special micro versions made for the papst rlf-35 which is an equally awesome and expensive fan. Any fan that works well for stealthburner should be a good option for nevermore micro as well.

See the BOM below for more details.

How do I make a suggestion/report a bug/find out more?

Getting Started

You're ready to build a Nevermore Micro? Cool!

Note

MADE FOR ABS/PC/PETG - USE A DECENTLY HEAT RESISTANT FILAMENT !!

Note

Since you are committing to fan dissection, be aware a 5015 used for a NM Micro will most likely never find a different purpose!

SOURCING THE PROPER ACID-FREE CARBON

IMPORTANT! Since first release the varying quality carbon out there has become increasingly evident. Users has both gotten bad carbon as well as outright dangerous stuff (in one case oxidizing most metal surfaces in a new voron in minutes. Be sure to vet your carbon supplier! You do not want your printer to look like this.

Acid residue on end-stop switch oxidizing

(z end-stop switch after using acid residue carbon for 30 minutes, oxidizing)

Acid residue on rails and screws oxidizing

(oxidation on rails and screws after using acid residue carbon. used with permission from Zeptron#8880)

Acid residue on filament tension spring oxidizing

(oxidation on filament tension spring after using acid residue carbon. used with permission from Zeptron#8880)

Acid residue on bolts and washers oxidizing

(oxidation on bolts and washers after using acid residue carbon. used with permission from Zeptron#8880)

Picking the Right Carbon for Your 3D Printer

Choosing the optimal activated carbon for a specific task requires careful consideration of several key factors, including surface area, CTC/benzene efficiency, porosity, and pH. These properties play a crucial role in determining the effectiveness and efficiency of the activated carbon in adsorbing target contaminants!

Surface area is perhaps the most critical factor, as it directly influences the adsorption capacity of the activated carbon. A higher surface area allows for more adsorption sites, enabling the activated carbon to capture and retain a greater amount of contaminants. Activated carbons typically range from 500 to 1250 m²/g, and a carbon of 1200 m²/g would have twice the capture capacity compared to a 600 m²/g carbon. A good carbon usually has at least 1000 m²/g. Be sure you're not getting scammed by buying 25% cheaper carbon that lasts half as long!

CTC (Carbon Tetrachloride) efficiency - or even better for 3D printing applications, aromatic hydrocarbon efficiency - is another important consideration, as it measures the activated carbon's ability to adsorb volatile organic compounds created from 3D printing. A higher CTC efficiency indicates a greater proportion of micro-pores, which are essential for capturing - and holding on to - small contaminants like airstream VOCs. Choosing an activated carbon with a CTC efficiency that matches the size of the target contaminants ensures optimal adsorption performance. A good carbon usually has at least 60% CTC. Be sure you're not getting scammed by buying 25% cheaper carbon that captures half as much!

Porosity , which refers to the distribution of pore sizes within the activated carbon, also plays a significant role. Activated carbons, depending on quality and carbon source, will have different ratios of micro-pores (<2 nm), meso-pores (2-50 nm), and macro-pores (>50 nm). For general use, an even mix might be preferred, as they can effectively capture a broad spectrum of contaminants while allowing for efficient mass transfer and regeneration. However, for 3D printing use, a high micro- and mesoporosity is ideal to both capture VOCs (<2 nm) and VOC- agglomerates (ultra-fine particles, <50 nm), whereas macropores will struggle to hold on to VOCs in a hot application like a 3D printer's heated chamber. Good carbon types for our application are usually sourced from coconut or anthracite, as they are highly microporous, whereas other common carbons, such as bamboo or bituminous, usually have a larger percentage of macropores. Be sure you're not getting scammed by buying 25% cheaper carbon that releases half the VOCs again!

The pH of your activated carbon should be considered, especially when dealing with pH-sensitive applications or contaminants. Activated carbons with a neutral or

slightly alkaline pH are suitable for most applications, while acidic or basic activated carbons may be required for specific tasks. In order to capture any VOC type generated from any filament, a neutral carbon (capable of binding to both neutral, acidic, and alkaline VOCs) is preferred. Some users have also experienced severe printer corrosion from using acid-contaminated/treated carbon that, for some reason, got released with the heating cycles. Be sure to buy a 3D printer-safe carbon that is steam-activated and not acid- treated/coated!

Compare carbons in a jiffy

As a general comparison number for neutral carbons, try multiplying surface area and CTC efficiency (available space * capturing efficiency):

Carbon A : 1250 m²/g * 80% CTC would be 1250 * 0.8 = 1000 ( yes, this is Nevermore specs )

Carbon B : 1000 m²/g * 50% CTC would be 1000 * 0.5 = 500

This means that Carbon A can be expected to be 2x the performance, capturing more VOCs for longer.

Be sure to buy Carbon A unless it's twice the price (or if you wish to refill your cartridges twice as often - it gets tedious quickly!).

NEVERMORE 3D PRINTER CARBON

Nevermore offers its own premium carbon of unmatched specifications through selected voron resellers. Its the best activated carbon for 3D printer use we have found after speaking to most major, vetted suppliers, offering benzene adsorbtion of up to 48 wt%, surface area of 1250 and CTC value of 80. It doesn't come cheap compared to bulk carbon from amazon, but its safe, has unbeatable performance, and every purchase supports the nevermore project by at least a dollar.

All Nevermore resellers here

BOM (V5)

  • 2x 5015 blowers (rating above 200Pa / 20mmH2O / 1 inH2O)
    • Sunon Maglev MF5015VX (high speed version, 6000 rpm. NOTE: There are A LOT of fake sunons out there, even from usually reputable sources. Blantant examples include 24V versions. Also, Sunon does not officially reecommend PWM:ing this fan, so while its still perfectly doable it can have unintended consequences later on) (There is no 24V version for this fan only comes in 12 V)
    • GDStime 6000rpm Dual Ball bearing on Aliexpress (This is 12V rated fans)
    • Delta BFB0524HH (This is 24V rated fans)
    • Avoid mechatronics fans for this purpose.
  • 6x M3, 5 mm OD, 4 mm height heatset inserts (standard voron issue)
    • 1 in plenum base to secure plenum lid
    • 1 in cartridge base to secure cartridge lide
    • 4 in fans (2 in each fan × 2 fans)
  • 8x ⌀6x3 mm round magnets
  • 1x 2 pin JST header
  • 4x M3x16 BHCS
    • for heat inserts that go into the four fan tabs
  • 1x M3x18 BHCS
    • ONLY for delta and v1.8 variants
  • 1x M3x6 BHCS
  • 1x M3x4 BHCS
    • for the extra hole in the plenum@lid for symmetry (it doesn’t attach to anything and is totally optional)

Acid-free Activated Carbon

  • 4mm Active Carbon Air Filter Pellets

Optional for the cartridge closure

  • 1x M3x0.5mm Heatset inserts
  • 1x M3x6 BHCS

Optional for Vorons or any printer with 2020 extrusions

  • 2x M3x12 SHCS
  • 2x M3 2020 T-Nuts

Optional for Vorons or any printer using 24PSU

  • 24 to 12 buck converter

BOM (V4)

  • 1x 5015 blowers (rating above 200Pa / 20mmH2O / 1 inH2O)
    • Sunon Maglev MF5015VX (high speed version, 6000 rpm. The 5000 rpm might be okay also)
    • or, the $4-6 GDStime 6000rpm Dual Ball bearing on Aliexpress
  • 4x M3, 5mm OD, 4mm height Heatset inserts (standard voron issue)
    • 2 for seating plenum to base
    • 2 for seating plenum lid to plenum
  • 8x ⌀4x6 mm or ⌀6x3 mm magnets
    • Make sure to print correct parts (4x6 or 6x3 files)
  • 1x 2 pin JST header
  • 2x M3x10 SHCS
    • for seating plenum to base
  • 2x M3x6 BHCS (any size, fits up to 20mm)
    • for seating plenum lid to plenum

Acid-free Activated Carbon

  • 4mm Active Carbon Air Filter Pellets

Optional for Vorons or any printer with 2020 extrusions

  • 2x M3x12 SHCS
  • 2x M3 2020 T-Nuts

Assembly

Check out assembly images (take note at how the fans are cut!) here: Nevermore V5 Plenum Assembly Album

Instructions for V5

Print pieces without supports. This goes for all Nevermore parts. Do note that there as built-in support below the cartridge insert. This is meant to be easily removed by pushing or crushing (it's a single line wall).

Instructions for V4

Start by cutting up the 5015 so just the center remains. Take off the top half, cut the bottom piece circular along the fan blades. We aim for removing the focused air stream and instead achieve an even pressure across all of the filter medium.

The Nevermore Micro has three main parts: Base, Plenum, and Cartridge (plus lids for the plenum/cartridge).

  • Base is mounted in the 130mm space between the bottom extrusions found on many vorons (designed for v2 originally). It’s seated with one m3 on each side, that screws into to a receiving 2020 M3 T-nut.

  • Plenum holds the cut up 5015 fan, and is seated with two m3 screws into the base (base has two recieving m3 4mm heat inserts) on each side.

  • Cartridge holds the filter medium of your choice (made for 4mm air filter active carbon pellets, but feel free to filter with what you think works best!). It snaps onto the Plenum piece for easy and quick removal.

For wiring, you are free to connect however works with your printer. If you do not have any direct controls on your MCU (controller board), then directly wiring may be your only option (with an inline switch).

However, if your MCU does have an additional fan output, then it is recommended to connect to it. If you are using Klipper on a Raspberry Pi, you have the option of using PWM fans and connecting the control wire to one of your PWM outputs on the RPi 40-pin header.

Final Thoughts on Usage

PID tune AGAIN if a Nevermore Micro is installed right beneath a heated bed, or draws/exhausts air over the bed thermistor. This is important, as worst case it could cause the bed to overheat, and/or make the heater adhesive burn (this will smell worse than any ABS printing!), and/or possibly even damage the bed heater.

The Nevermore Micro's activated carbon will not filter Ultra-Fine Particulates (UFP). This is what the HEPA filter does in the Nevermore Mini (not released yet) and Nevermore Max variants. Those also have built-in negative-pressure fans.

However, you can achieve the same results with the Nevermore Micro by using a HEPA filter of your own and creating slightly negative air-pressure within your build chamber, exhausting air outwards at a slow pace. Since you are filtering with the Nevermore, the vast majority of VOCs will be filters by the active carbon filtration, leaving the HEPA filter to capture the remaining UFPs. This also greatly extends the live of your HEPA filter as the Nevermore Micro will be accumulating the larger particulates.

To create a negative pressure within your build chamber, simply install a fan to slowly draw air out of your build chamber and our through a HEPA filter. Voron machines already have such a design with their rear exhaust housing for HEPA filters.

The negative pressure will also eliminate diffusion, especially if your build chamber is not completely sealed.

Credits

The Nevermore Activated Carbon Filter was modelled in Fusion 360.

Contributing

Please contribute! I'd like to incorporate VOC sensors, making the filter smart (running on low-noise mode at an acceptable VOC level, then ramp up at the end to clean more thoroughly before doors open).

License

Distributed under GNU General Public License version 3.0 (GPLv3)

Contact

Acknowledgements

Special Thanks

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nevermore_micro's Issues

Routing wires in V6?

Hi,
Could the V6 documentation be extended to include the wire routing instructions? With full size fans, it is not clear where the wires should go from the fans to the compartment. I tried to do this just snuggly on top, but it seems to not match the design intention, as it leads to the lid bulging in the middle:
image

Wago 221-2

The internal wago option isn't an option as it shorts the power and ground wires together, could damage a mainboard. Asking for more information in depth on how you were able to get this to work based on the instructions.

STL files are missing?

Heads up - there are no STL/STEP files in the git for Micro V6. Did they not upload? Would like to start printing this asap. Thank you for your work.

Unable to print V6 Cartridge built-in support

V6 Cartridge 90 degree:
Prusa Slicer:
Voron V2.4

Prusa Slicer removes the large built-in support for the sliding door presumably because the slicer perceives inadequate attach points for the support. Modifying the STL to add a random square object to the support object does force Prusa Slicer to print with the support in place, however, the print still fails when printing the support portion because of inadequate attachment between support and structure.

Unable to print object.

Nevermore Micro v4 - lid and cartridge collision

Hi guys,

First of all thanks for this awesome project!

I printed the parts (directly extracted from the Fusion 360 project) for the Micro v4 but have some problems when assembling.
The lid does not cover the cartridge fully. There is a gap on one side.
nevermore_collision_print

I had a look at the Fusion360 model and it seems this actually to be expected (I only assigned a different colour to make it easier to spot, otherwise this is a fresh unmodified download).
You can see that there is a collision and that the two curves don't match up:
nevermore_collision

If I rotate the lid by about 0.5° until the two curves are fairly well aligned, I can reproduce the gap I see in my real-world print:
nevermore_collision_fixed

Is that a known issue?

Thanks!

V6 Wago connector clarifications

It should be noted/clarified in the BOM for the V6 that for the Wago connector the part number 221-422 or 221-412 is needed.
The Wago 221 Series has 2 different sizes. The 221-4 and the 221-6.
221-6 is bigger and does not fit into the mounting space.

Plenum side mounting holes reversed for a v2.4.

Mounting holes on the plenum sides do not line up in the middle of the 2020 rails on the bottom of a v2.4. They are offset 2 to 3 mm causing misalignment with the 90 degree filtration medium box. The filtration box fits snug but fine to the bottom panel on a v2.4 with whoppingpochard kinematic mounts which doesn't leave room to tilt the filtration medium box to the offset plenum.

BOM error - Magnets are '3x6' not '6x3'

As the title states - I now have to find some creative use for some very long and thin cylindrical magnets :D

Thank you for taking the time to develop the Nevermore!

VOC Monitoring Question

Hello, I am looking to gain more information on VOC monitoring. The Nevermore Max readme contains info on VOC monitoring, and references research from Dr. Dave. Does the nevermore team have a link to his research, or know of any VOC sensors that are well suited for FDM printing. Thank you
"Ever wondered when its time to swap carbon? Well, on the max you could add VOC sensors to both intake
and exhaust and measure how well the filter is doing its job! Thanks to Dr Dave
there are even data on which sensors reliably detect the aromatic VOCs we strive
to catch (a lot of sensors hardly detect extrusion VOCs at all as they are intended
for other applications)"

Issue when mounting with kinematic supports

Hello,
I've noticed an issue when mounting nevermore V6 in a Voron V2 with the kinematic bed mounts.
The mounts are slightly larger than the 2020 leading to issues mounting it.
I don't know if it would be possible to increase the chanfer on the upper corder a little bit to accomodate it without creating an issue with airflow/fans.
image

Revise V5 BOM Heatset insert locations for plenum

1x Plenum base to Plenum lid joint
4x for Fan tabs (2 ea fan)

Total 5x at Plenum

Also, it seems most assemblies people are making omit the heatset inserts and SHCS that go into the fan tabs, while adding the fastener in cartridge base to lid joint. including referenced assembly pictures for V5.

nevermore V5_duo - Plenum lid make fans loud and weak!

The project looks very nice optically, but in practice - I had my doubts when printing, and the first launch confirmed them.
Very nice cover over the fans - it has a very narrow airflow channel. It chokes the fans. After putting it on, you can immediately hear the fans go to high speed - it means that they spin the air in a circle, instead of pumping it through the filter.

The first mod - I cut out the entire inner part of the lid with a weight. The fans are exposed.
I measured the air flow - almost 50% better flow with such a cut cover. And almost 6dB quieter operation (at full 24v power supply)

Because my pliers-cut cover looked ugly - I printed a new one, as in the picture - already with holes cut out for the fans.
obraz
Success.
Quiet (well, maybe not super quiet, but quieter than the original) with higher airflow. As a result - you can set almost half the power supply - there is the same air flow and it is very quiet.

Remove fan clips from v6 Plenum stl and post separately

Tried to print my v6 plenum last night but due to closed issue #48, my clips were both failed

#48

Although i do need to reprint the plenum after it split snapping in the lid, printing those clips separately (and being able to move them around on the print bed) would be helpful

V5 Slide-in Magnet mod interference with lip on lid

Slide in magnet mod adds slots for magnets to roll-in on at front of plenum. These interfere ~1.5 mm with the lip on the plenum lid. easy to clip the added feature back. But it seems it could be reduced without loss to printability or function

V6_Plenum[2020_extrusion] fan clips midair

Noticed this after my print started to fail, but the two pieces that print alongside the main body to hold the fans in are midair. Just looking at the other STLs they are flat on the bed.

Wraping

Hi there!
There is a high chance that parts will wrap during printing.
My 3 attemps: in the photos, the last one with glue and brim but also not perfect.
My setup :voron 2.4 with chamber, abs Fiberlogy
I know that not only I had a problems with printing these parts.
There is no problem with wraping of v6_Cartridge_90deg - because the last layer is most critical and is finnally flat.
Do You have some print advice ?
Soome solution is to turn upside down the part V6_Plenum for printing, then last layar is also for sure flat.
first_attemps
glue+brim

V5 Cartridge Lid CAD files

I did not see a cartridge lid in any of the cad files so I was hoping to get the f3d/step file for that if possible

Improvements to the readme for new users

I'm a new user and I read the readme.md and while it left me more informed on VOCs and carbon in general, it didn't actually help me better understand the build, and how to integrate it into a printer, or what it actually is (i.e. will I be able to use it?). I had to find some random dude on youtube doing a video on installing it (and installing it in a bad (hot) location) before I understood what and how. The shiny renders look nice but they don't really give me much information, I'd much rather have seen an exploded diagram of the main parts and how they connect/attach to a printer.

The biggest thing I missed was an overview of how it's meant to be used and installed. Something like the following at the top of the readme would have helped me greatly: "Nevermore Micro is a recirculating activated carbon air filter installed inside of a sealed print chamber. Typically it's installed by attaching to the printer's t-slot extresions or VHB taped to the chamber walls. It needs one free 12V/24V fan header on your control board and firmware support (e.g. klipper)."

Additionally while there's a lot of good information on the readme, it's very long and a bit unfocused. My suggestion is to move historical context and background on VOCs etc to a separate (github wiki?) page and focus the readme on building, BOM, sourcing and installing linking out to the above pages in the introduction.

And thanks for this cool upgrade :)

V6 XL HEPA cartridge -- lower about 1 cm?

If only the XL HEPA cartridge were about 1 cm lower, the Voron 0 print head would perfectly clear it 🤔 Are there any reasons why it shouldn't? Here shown with a Dragon Burner print head, but it is about the same height as the stock head.
unnamed
On the right side (the A motor side) it might still collide with Kirigami mod bed, if not pulled far enough towards the front, but on the left side (the B motor side) it otherwise seem to be the perfect fit.

Built in supports fail

Printed in ASA using same settings as all other Voron parts I have made. These settings usually make clean results. Maybe an adjustment on this support so it anchors better on the left side? Maybe post a version with no built in supports so we can attempt via our own slicer? Thx.

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V6_Plenum[2020_extrusion].stl print issue

I love the v6 but the current print orientation for the "V6_Plenum[2020_extrusion].stl" is problematic. the print orientation of the stl positions a long, thin, edge, which makes the design highly susceptible to warping (especially considering the recommended material being abs). I tried multiple times to print it with an enclosed voron 2.4 with a chamber temp above 40 but the print consistently warped to the point of being unusable (because the magnetic warped too far away from the correct position. I'd recommend a version of the design with a print orientation like the v5 "V2_Duo_Plenum.stl" to reduce warping.

Provide the f3d for the 6x3 magnet verion

I love the design but I wanted to modify the FILTER_CARTRIDGE_6_3.stl to add some text around the side. Made some modifications with the Nevermore_Micro v4.f3d file once imported into F360 only to realize after I printed it that the holes for the magnets were quite small. I would appreciate a way to use the f3d with the regular 6x3 magnets or at least have the holes parameterized in Fusion. Thank you.

v6 - please provide assembly photos

A couple of photo's showing the assembly of the v6 would go a long way to making it easier to follow the directions. While I was able to print and (finally) assemble it, there were a couple of "huh?" moments.

One issue I never managed to resolve to my satisfaction was where to run the fan wires inside the plenum. Right now, the plenum cover bulges out a bit due not having anyplace to run wires (or not knowing where they should be run.)

Finally, I'm not thrilled with the plenum's "snap close" lid. If I ever need to open that back up to service a fan or something, I'm not sure I'd be able to do so without breaking the plastic. If it's secured with a screw, why ALSO make it snap closed?

V6 STL files have unprintable fragments

The STL files for the Jalousie, and to a lesser extent also the Plenum and Cartridge, are detected as having lots of objects in 1 file. For instance in Super Slicer, the "Split to Objects" or "Split to Parts" functions will reveal all of the tiny pieces that are too small to print

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API klipper for changing carbon after notofication?

Hello,

i have already several API endpoints from klipper, so that I get infos to my homeassistant. For example the whatsapp message when a print is ready, or switching Power of when the temp of the head is under 40°C.

Now I thougt that I can get the statistics from klipper too and every x hours of printing i get a notification to change the carbon in the box.

The YAML and sensors with calculating in homeassistant is not the problem, but I couldn´t find an endpoint for getting the values, which I can see on the history page of mainsailos. Has anyone maybe an idea? Or how do you bei informed if the the 50 hours are gone since last change?

Artefacts in Nevermore Area

Hello , I print the V2 Duo_Catridge and found some artefacts in the front area on my print . I see that it comes from the stl . Enclosed some pictures . !

I love the Nevermore ! Thank you for that :)

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XL cartridge and jalousie not fit

The jalousie is 0.2mm thicker than the cartridge's jalousie slider (not sure what to name it, image below for reference).

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Edit: I measured it wrong. But the tolerance is too tight though (around 0.06mm only)

the poke yoke tongue on the v6 cartridge doesn't actually stop reversal on the straight cart.

(sorry if this is a overloaded issue Its kind of just misc feedback and soft issues. Feel free to just bonk and close it)

Maybe its not meant to stop the filter from being put on the other way around, but the tongue on the filter that pokes into the main body doesn't do anything on the straight cartridge when flipped around. It looks like I have the filter on backwards by the tongue but this is actually the way I would want the filter for my trident,
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and then for the trident mount am I supposed to put the nevermore on the back wall or the side, a little more instruction on mounting might be nice, just saying it wasn't clear, Ill figure it out or make my own mount. Id guess more mounting pictures/directions are planned. If I had noticed before I printed it I probably would have flipped the text for the way I'm mounting it, lol youre using the v6 Im on 9 delta. I also didn't print the 2020 mount because I didn't read but also because it was labeled optional in the folder. Where's the other heatset insert go?
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and and, I ended up cutting a lot of the grating out of the top of the straight cartridge, the profile(default prusa voron v2) I had printed it with had 3mm mini travel after retract and with my abs not being extremely dry, every hole was pretty much crossed out with stringing. it'll be fine at least with your pellets nothing seem to fall out. Probably would have printed a version with the more open grate anyway since its gonna be standing up in my trident
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or maybe its just that prusa 2.6 wants to do a line of bridges before perimeters but it starts and stops extrusion, and the wall drags plastic out of the nozzle so its not primed to start and stop like it tries to. and the it came back later to finish some of them, I wonder if a small gap below the first layer of the cross grating would turn it into only 5 continues bridges, maybe I just have a setting funky, I messed around a little but it didn't seem to want to act differently.
prusa 2 6 doesn't like to bridge these, out of order and start and stops

I forgot to take pictures but winsin fans worked fine I just had to trim off two of the closure snaps for them to sit well, the spring clips hold them well.
The 3x jst mount seemed to work well, I plugged in the connections and then cut and resoldered the wires to the fans so there wasn't much extra wire.

DUO XL 3mf slices without bottom

Cura slicer will slice/print the latest Duo XL 3mf without a bottom.

SuperSlicer acknowledges different parts of the file and asks if they are part of the same object and resolves whatever issue Cura cannot.

So - the 3mf file cannot be sliced w/ CURA, but can function w/ SuperSlicer.

V6 Cartridge Lid Design

I love what you have done with the V6; the plenum is very nice and practical and much better than the V5.

I have been trying to fit the Jalousie, it has the flex required but because the rails its supposed to slide in are not perfect it is challenging to fit correctly; it looks great, but for ease of assembly, it's simply too hard for me to fit it as described. I have printed it according to the settings suggested and followed the install instructions by warming up the part but no luck. I am up to my sixth print of it and still no luck.

Can you add a slid lid like the V5 for the cartridge?

V6 half

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone is interested in a V6 "half" version.

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I just threw this together with "split body", I would love some feedback first.

I imagine it could go on the left and right side of the bed of my V2.4, so that the airflow would be stronger in the same up direction, which I can't quite achieve with a fan mod like the one from Ellis.

At the moment I'm planning to use it without filter bags, but theoretically a single bag should fit, right?

V6 plenum for V0 with Winsinn fans

My Winsinn blowers don't fit properly in the Delta_GDStime_Winsinn plenum, but they fit well in the Sunon_Honeybadger plenum.

I have Winsinn 5015 blowers (just purchased from Amazon US), so I printed the corresponding plenum for my Voron 0, V6/v0/v0_Plenum_Delta_GDStime_Winsinn.stl. The blowers fit very poorly due to the clips that hold the blower shell together and insufficient clearance in the plenum. The only difference I can see between the two plenum models (I only looked at the v0-specific variations) is the clearance for the blower clips. I did a quick draft-quality PLA print of the other plenum model (V6/v0/v0_Plenum_Sunon_Honeybadger.stl) just out of curiosity, and the Winsinn blowers fit in that one much better.

Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe the Winsinn product spec changed, or perhaps the Nevermore models/documentation could be improved by mentioning possible variations in the wild.

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Question : Granules vs Pellets?

Would the micro v4 or v5 work with granules rather than pellets? I could sift of any dust. Do you see a problem with that plan?

Missing fan hole supports in GDStime v0 model

In commit 833f637 the fan hole supports were removed causing significant drooping of plastic on the overhangs in that area.

The other model still kept the supports so Im pretty sure this is an unwanted change and was left out by accident.

how to protect carbon if not printing around the clock?

Hello.

Reading the instructions at your distributor
https://lecktor.com/en/v2x-misc/870-nevermore-carbon.html
and other sources I got that carbon will be depleted if exposed to the air.

Now if I do not print regularly and I want to use the product referenced above for more than 6 months, what is the recommended procedure?

What is the shelf life of the vacuumed carbon?

What is the shelf life of the bag if the vacuumed bag was opened and then sealed just with the bag seal?

Would you please consider selling smaller vacuumed packages so that if one does not print ABS regularly, one can keep the carbon fresh longer?

Does it make sense to remove the whole filter assembly filled with fresh carbon from the printer and seal it into a sealed bag between prints to keep the carbon fresh? This is something I would consider as a good nature friendly practice.

Thanks for a great product.

Suggestion: Implement support for 3M bayonet-style filters, e.g. 6003 OV/AG, or similar

Performance-wise, this should be the best option; these filters are NIOSH approved (granted, only for use with a compatible facepiece) for keeping organic vapor exposure under exposure limits (while the paper documentation is not too clear on what "organic vapors" encompasses, 3M's service life calculator (https://sls.3m.com/) provides a wide range of potential contaminants to check filter compatibility and lifespan against).

Arguments can be had about the economy of the filters, but the calculator suggests reasonable lifespan before reaching its built-in exposure limits, which are very conservative (e.g. the calculator will report time to reach breakthrough of 10% of the exposure concentration or half of the OSHA exposure limit, whichever is lower, at which point the cartridge will likely still outperform brand-new loose carbon). The cost of a pair of cartridges is about $14, if bought in bulk that drops to about $10 a pair, and a single cartridge is likely sufficient for this application (the respirators use 2 cartridges in parallel to reduce the restriction on breathing and improve comfort, for the Nevermore the added restriction of a single cartridge can be overcome with more powerful fans). The cartridges would also be easier and faster to replace and have a wide range of options available for different VOC contaminant profiles or particle filtration performance.

If that still proves too expensive, users also have the option of purchasing knockoff/off-brand cartridges, such as these.

V6 Jalousie instructions unclear

"Also 90 degrees infill angle, so the 3rd layer is printed in this orientation."

An image of the slicer in the correct, and possibly incorrect configuration, would be helpful here

I am unsure what this orientation is referring to

V6 Issues

I am having trouble printing the catridge and the part holding the fans:
For the catridge:

  • The support panel is unprintaple, I resliced it, printed at 30mm/s and the support panel just becomes a bunch of spaghetties.

  • The part holding the fans has three primary issues for me:

    • The fans provided by ldo do not fit perfectly
    • there are no channeld for the cables
    • the top lit does not fit (its loo long)

[CAD] Step file upload possible?

Hi! I love my Nevermore Micro V4 & V5 and was about to print a V6 for my V2, but ran across #52

I was going to look at the CAD to try and modify the filter cartridge (the plenum should be fine), but realized that it's only available as an f3d file. Since I use OnShape this was a bit problematic. Could you possibly upload the CAD as a STEP since it's a bit more portable for those who don't use F360?

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