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arademaker avatar arademaker commented on September 21, 2024

Em 02913152-n, porque não adicionar "construção"?

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vcvpaiva avatar vcvpaiva commented on September 21, 2024

hmm pode ser, mas eu estava trabalhando na ideia de remover coisas
absurdas, pois acho um absurdo o tamanho da entrada de "casa" em portugues
15 synsets? e nao vejo muita diferenca entre entre alguns.
ingles tem 12, mas tem pelo menos uma casa diferente que nao temos: casa
zodiacal
e tb das linguas que eu entendo, a unica que tem construcao 'e italiano.
espanhol, galicio e catalao nao tem, mas tem imovel, que tb funciona em
portugues...enfim acho que completar synsets e' mais complicado...

2013/11/23 Alexandre Rademaker [email protected]

Em 02913152-n, porque não adicionar "construção"?


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arademaker avatar arademaker commented on September 21, 2024

Entendi como vc está pensando! Realmente, análise por synset tentando completa-los é bem mais complicada!

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vcvpaiva avatar vcvpaiva commented on September 21, 2024

sim o synset de chalet diz mesmo que e' uma casa,
03002816-n:http://casta-net.jp/%7Ekuribayashi/cgi-bin/wn-multi.cgi?synset=03002816-n&lang=eng
*
chalet* a Swiss house with a sloping roof and wide eaves or a house built
in this stylemas isso nao adiciona um novo synset pra house, certo? dai que
a gente podia ate' tirar chalet dos synsets de casa, mas isso nao esta'
errado, dai a gente nao se preocupa. fica um synset a mais pra casa em
portugues, mas nao esta errado ontologicamente...

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Alexandre Rademaker <
[email protected]> wrote:

Entendi como vc está pensando! Realmente, análise por synset tentando
completa-los é bem mais complicada!


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arademaker avatar arademaker commented on September 21, 2024

Done. Script abaixo foi executado.

(remove-synset-words !wn30br:synset-02913152-n (list "casa" "edifícios"))

(remove-synset-words !wn30br:synset-02726305-n (list "casa" "aposentos"))

(remove-synset-words !wn30br:synset-03544360-n (list "teatro" "Habitações" "edifícios residenciais" "firma"))
(add-synset-word !wn30br:synset-03544360-n "edifício residencial")

;; pensando sobre possivel uso da WordNet, é conveniente manter
;; "casa", pensando sobre a estrutura da WordNet, acho que deveria
;; ficar apenas "lar".
(remove-synset-word !wn30br:synset-08559508-n "Lar")
(add-synset-word !wn30br:synset-08559508-n "lar")

; acho que aqui deveria ficar apenas "família".
(remove-synset-words !wn30br:synset-08078020-n (list "agregado familiar" "pessoa da família que mora na mesma casa" "classe" "linhagem"))
(add-synset-word !wn30br:synset-08078020-n "lar")

(remove-synset-word !wn30br:synset-03002816-n "casa")

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vcvpaiva avatar vcvpaiva commented on September 21, 2024

obrigada!

acho que aqui deveria ficar apenas "família".
nao, a gente fala sim "a linhagem dos Habsburg, a casa de Braganca".

2013/11/23 Alexandre Rademaker [email protected]

Done. Script abaixo foi executado.

(remove-synset-words !wn30br:synset-02913152-n (list "casa" "edifícios"))

(remove-synset-words !wn30br:synset-02726305-n (list "casa" "aposentos"))

(remove-synset-words !wn30br:synset-03544360-n (list "teatro" "Habitações"
"edifícios residenciais" "firma"))
(add-synset-word !wn30br:synset-03544360-n "edifício residencial")

;; pensando sobre possivel uso da WordNet, é conveniente manter
;; "casa", pensando sobre a estrutura da WordNet, acho que deveria
;; ficar apenas "lar".
(remove-synset-word !wn30br:synset-08559508-n "Lar")
(add-synset-word !wn30br:synset-08559508-n "lar")

; acho que aqui deveria ficar apenas "família".
(remove-synset-words !wn30br:synset-08078020-n (list "agregado familiar"
"pessoa da família que mora na mesma casa" "classe" "linhagem"))
(add-synset-word !wn30br:synset-08078020-n "lar")

(remove-synset-word !wn30br:synset-03002816-n "casa")


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arademaker avatar arademaker commented on September 21, 2024

mudanças já tinham sido aplicadas.

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