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I just realized that there is a problem that the romanization spelling used in the Cantonese section of the 開放辭典 is the Yale. Since the data is originally in the Yale scheme, some of the pronunciation elements (e.g., eo, eu, ep, and oe) that exist in Jyutping cannot be converted correctly (perfect correspondingly), and as a result, some words and phrases may be distorted after being converted.

Share some references from other research:

1. 耶魯拼音中，/a/ 喺開音節用 a 表示，閉音節用 aa。/ɐ/ 喺閉音節中用 a 表示，無法表示開音節 /ɐ/。
2. 耶魯拼音用 j ch y 嚟代表 /ts/、/tsʰ/、/j/ 三個音。因此元音 /yː/ 需要用 yu 嚟表示。
3. 耶魯方案唔區分 /ɵ/ 同埋 /œ/，兩者都用 eu 嚟表示。亦都因爲噉耶魯拼音無法表示 /ɛːu/ 呢個音。
4. 耶魯用附加符號 ˉˊ 同埋字母 h 嚟表示聲調（新版本加入咗數字標調）。

	睡 /sɵi˨/	掉 /tɛːu˨/	𠰲 /œt˨/
耶魯	seuih	無法表示	無法表示
粵拼	seoi6	deu6	oet6

To avoid the continuation of this issue, it is recommended that the 開放詞典 convert all Yale in original data to standard Jyutping, and from then on use Jyutping for new words and phrases, so as to avoid the distortion of conversion between spelling systems by adding new words and phrases with continuing use of Yale.

Hi admin(s) of 開放詞典, please make Jyutping as the default displayed spelling system of the website.

With the growing use of Cantonese Jyutping, most online resources have standardized around Jyutping rather than others, and now even the Cantonese input methods offered in Apple QuickType and Google Gboard, which also use Jyutping as the primary spelling for Cantonese. It is clear that Jyutping has become the dominant standard for Cantonese spelling system.

Some cases show that people did question the fact that the Yale scheme currently used in 開放詞典 is not the standard Jyutping spelling system they are familiar with, which led to inconsistencies in their use of both 開放詞典 and the input method and other online resources.

Therefore, please consider making Jyutping as the primary default displayed spelling systems for the website to meet the needs of most users.

Lastly, I would like to say thanks to 開放詞典's site owner and contributors for their efforts on the Cantonese language. It provides a great source of data for those who want to learn Cantonese and for those who want to build applications related to Cantonese learning.

Now, thanks in advance to those who will help with this issue!

Sidney Lau and Yale Romanizations should distinguish high falling è tone from high level tone ē