Please release the source about principia

[sdac]

Thanks for your support everyone! Of course we will keep our promise and release the source code for Principia.

Better yet, we're going to give the series yet another shot and take Principia to the next level. We're gonna combine the best from Principia and Apparatus and make the best physics puzzler ever.

This new third game in the Apparatus series will also be free and open source!

@markozajc giving up was the last resort, we really tried to keep going but couldn't. Give me another chance and I won't let anyone down. It might sound silly but we're going to start off with a Kickstarter campaign in 2 weeks. I believe we have a much better chance this time and I will explain why very soon.

[electroscientistX]

principia-web.tk Enjoy!

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[electroscientistX]

Now, that will be enough to make 2020 the best year!

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On Sun, 6 Dec, 2020, 00:56 ROllerozxa, ***@***.***> wrote: imagine... principia source code as our christmas gift. wouldn't that be nice? — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABSDZIYPQYTO6TLDYAF3CXTSTKCPDANCNFSM4DHPFAYQ> .

[mrsimb]

Not to mention buildings complexity drop, due to higher performance requirements.

[electroscientistX]

Yes, but i seriously think that this is the perfect time, if we get source, we can revive it and make principia better again!!

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On 21/07/2018, Joel Robert Justiawan ***@***.***> wrote: Hello there. I am JOELwindows7 in Principia. it's been 2 years since the git has shown, but source code still abscent. I have a lot of trouble. we have a lot of trouble! We are lost. Some other communities have downvote button, many unstable people, and stuffs. We may have our reputation destroyed. We miss Principia. our glorious days back then, now scronch by financial issues. Please, listen to us. thank you. -- You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: #1 (comment)

[markozajc]

I love how these people want to be professional but just end up being assholes who give up on the game because it doesn't rack up enough money on the IndieGoGo campaign.

[electroscientistX]

It's not that, he had many problems and closing Principia was last thing he could do. Now, this time, it will be open source from starting and it won't die :)

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On Mar 20, 2019 9:36 PM, "Marko Zajc" ***@***.***> wrote: I love how these people want to be professional but just end up being assholes who give up on the game because it doesn't rack up enough money on the IndieGoGo campaign. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o_pDW4ZHP_zQmjqWOLYRCdcOmXjzks5vYlyXgaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[electroscientistX]

Yes, there will be 2.5d mode for building but 3d for driving vehicles, etc. I really don't want to give many spoilers so, bottom line is: it will be perfect

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On Mar 22, 2019 12:12 AM, "Blue-Beaker" ***@***.***> wrote: At least there need to be a "2.5D mode" that make objects move like that in the original Principia. But infinite layers (maybe customizable) in a 2.5d level maybe awesome. And I think some features will be great: No limits to slider values. maybe a "Pro mode" for this. Interactive builder. Lets player to control objects like adventure robot builder, in its range. When in adventure mode, its range will be counted as build range. Input a signal to disable. Interactive force gameplay setting. Interactive(interactive objects and builder function) dragging will have a force to push other objects away. Object rename and list in edit mode. Easy to select objects far away and stacked objects. Optimized synthesizer with no latency. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o3_JUdr_nC2DFhaLh-geSGtCc9H3ks5vY9KugaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[markozajc]

He likely doesn't care about it anymore. His Kickstarter campaign failed, why would he?

[rollerozxa]

If it sounds too good to be true it probably is. :(

Anyways, since Emil doesn't seem to care anymore I've been working on an unofficial community site.

There's more information about it on our Discord server along with downloads for mods to connect to the unofficial community site. https://discord.gg/B6V7nUaN

[sdac]

Sorry for the delay, stay tuned for the source code this weekend.

[rollerozxa]

LET'S GOOOOO! I was so excited yesterday when you finally came back. Can't wait!

(btw for anyone following this issue like a mailing list and is not currently in the unofficial Principia Discord server, you probably should join it to stay up to date: https://discord.gg/qV6APzKfk9)

[griffi-gh]

YEESSSS

[JOELwindows7]

FINALLY!!!

After all these years!!!

[markozajc]

that took a while

[szymex73]

↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑
Please release the principia.
It's an awesome game!

[20kdc]

Slightly skeptical that this is happening.
It's been... well over a year.
The website still says it's being released, but... I'm doubtful.
There's also only one person in the company's GitHub organization, which is... concerning.

[Yumi08]

Still no source?

[electroscientistX]

No, we are really waiting for it

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On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 8:31 AM Yumi Ta ***@***.***> wrote: Still no source? — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o8e-SSdkWfmzedZBAeg1Uo3CMBNRks5uCt6RgaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[Yumi08]

Wow, I wonder if the developers still even think about this game anymore. From what I've seen the site's down too, not sure though.

[electroscientistX]

yes, the site is down. but we have a whatsapp group and discord server of principia community members from the site, we are willing to bring principia back, only thing we need is the source...

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 at 03:29, Yumi Ta ***@***.***> wrote: Wow, I wonder if the developers still even think about this game anymore. From what I've seen the site's down too, not sure though. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o6YVfpkoHxYDaf2TpazIjaNXY32rks5uFnVHgaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[JOELwindows7]

Hello there. I am JOELwindows7 in Principia. it's been 3 years since the git has shown, but source code still abscent. I have a lot of trouble. we have a lot of trouble! We are lost. Some other communities have downvote button, many unstable people, and stuffs. We do not know what to build. We have no idea what should we do. If we hastily build and publish, we will get lousy votes that embarrasses us, and humiliates us drastically.

We may have our reputation destroyed. We may be known as the worst builder ever. We miss Principia. our glorious days back then, now scronch by the financial issues.
Please, listen to us. thank you.

Oh yeah. remember, I am known as JOELwindows7. Even though you found the building community, I advise you to not post them here. probably, use the other chat you have known and fortunately joined.

[JOELwindows7]

In matter of time. Or someone should make a clone of it.

[electroscientistX]

agree but how? they really need to upload it first...

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On 24 July 2018 at 16:20, Joel Robert Justiawan ***@***.***> wrote: In matter of time. Or someone should make a clone of it. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o6D53XsBxYHlgUoGFnkwsDeqse3-ks5uJvvdgaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[markozajc]

Is this project dead? It seems like a such a neat idea but it's website is down and the developer(s) don't reply to emails (and they don't seem to respond to anything else either).
EDIT: Does anyone here have the game itself (for PC)? As far as I can tell it was free during its last months.

[electroscientistX]

yeah, the website is deas since long time actually and devs dont say a word a word :(

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 20:45, Marko Zajc ***@***.***> wrote: Is this project dead? It seems like a such a neat idea but it's website is down and the developer(s) don't reply to emails (and they don't seem to respond to anything else either). — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o5lk1Tigc50zEcpIGb8_HFeR9sVIks5vFdl0gaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[Blue-Beaker]

I'm hhhh from Principia.
It's lucky that I kept the installer file for PC.
Here's the file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x9eHmYRULT4dguRFJmBh8PjVhQaHXGtP/view?usp=sharing

[JOELwindows7]

We should clone based on what we see from how it works then. 🤕 😢 😭

[electroscientistX]

just happy to see comunity responding again :)

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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 23:02, Joel Robert Justiawan ***@***.***> wrote: We should clone based on what we see from how it works then. 🤕 — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8oy9ZDT7la_SDvVjpM2jIYXVtPOsJks5vLGM-gaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[Lenny-the-burger]

Hey i played principia i was nuklear/nuklear2 if anyone remembers the bobmonkeypimp_ drama that was me

[markozajc]

@Lenny-the-burger Why are you commenting that on this issue?

[electroscientistX]

Here, have a comment: Give me your WhatsApp no., will add you in community

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On Mar 11, 2019 5:48 PM, "Marko Zajc" ***@***.***> wrote: @Lenny-the-burger <https://github.com/Lenny-the-burger> Why are you commenting that on this issue? — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o0nX6lMIkV3JO3r71EWtf01Z6FOlks5vVkmlgaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[markozajc]

@electroscientistX Thanks for the invite, but I'll have to decline as I do not use WhatsApp and do not intend to start using it anytime soon (neither do I know any of the previous community).

[szymex73]

I just got an email saying that apparatus is going to be back

[electroscientistX]

Yes, it is true and spread the word!!

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On Mar 20, 2019 8:41 PM, "Szymon Borecki" ***@***.***> wrote: I just got an email saying that apparatus is going to be back — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o8GUNP5Kora8DUwV74CWzDB1J_dZks5vYk-lgaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[szymex73]

Will it be? I didn't catch that in the email

[electroscientistX]

Well, sdac just joined WhatsApp group and he announced it Also, check principiagame.com for proof :)

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On Mar 20, 2019 9:44 PM, "Szymon Borecki" ***@***.***> wrote: Will it be? I didn't catch that in the email — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8owVKF0NJcqEDFcWMaRDl2vOrjhzmks5vYl57gaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[markozajc]

@electroscientistX not sure who sdac is, but there definitely isn't any "proof" of them releasing their stuff as opensource on principia's website.

[markozajc]

Woha, really didn't expect that. Happy to see the project moving somewhere after 3 years of inactivity!

[electroscientistX]

Sdac is creator of Principia, he recently got it touch with me (~3 days ago), he is serious and website is updated for apparatus 2019 (Principia 2.0) I guess you should join the WhatsApp group or else, I'm here almost anytime :)

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On Mar 20, 2019 10:14 PM, "Marko Zajc" ***@***.***> wrote: @electroscientistX <https://github.com/electroscientistX> not sure who sdac is, but there definitely isn't any "proof" of them releasing their stuff as opensource on principia's website. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8oz0s7U_E3YltMypC3ioGxaYBttUKks5vYmVagaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[SpicyForthProgrammer]

Will this be fully open source and free (as in freedom) do you have plans on making things like assets creative commons and such? Will you be using a permisive license like the gpl or the bsd which i heard you mention before?

[markozajc]

I hope they'll use GPL at least. It'd be a shame if some of the forks weren't open source.

[electroscientistX]

It will be free and open source And also, Spoiler alert: it will be 3d!

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On Mar 21, 2019 9:30 AM, "aaronGoldberg02" ***@***.***> wrote: Will this be fully open source and free (as in freedom) do you have plans on making things like assets creative commons and such? Will you be using a permisive license like the gpl or the bsd which i heard you mention before? — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o3LJ_mdmG5uOwNIvjZi6xwRRZ2-nks5vYwP7gaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[szymex73]

Wasn't the last one 3d tho? 😀

[electroscientistX]

It used 3d objects but all movements was in 2d plane This time, it will be real 3d

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On Mar 21, 2019 1:16 PM, "Szymon Borecki" ***@***.***> wrote: Wasn't the last one 3d tho? 😀 — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8oy8kGEkMjZl6Cbu0dWSmS3IwbFw9ks5vYzjugaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[mrsimb]

It used 3d objects but all movements was in 2d plane This time, it will be real 3d
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On Mar 21, 2019 1:16 PM, "Szymon Borecki" @.***> wrote: Wasn't the last one 3d tho? 😀 — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8oy8kGEkMjZl6Cbu0dWSmS3IwbFw9ks5vYzjugaJpZM4M7ygx .

2.5 nature of the game was the main reason it was so playable on mobile devices.

[electroscientistX]

Well, this time, it will be more playable even with 3d (wait for it)

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On Mar 21, 2019 1:42 PM, "Pavlov Andrew" ***@***.***> wrote: It used 3d objects but all movements was in 2d plane This time, it will be real 3d … <#m_-1186965915538437995_> On Mar 21, 2019 1:16 PM, "Szymon Borecki" ***@***.***> wrote: Wasn't the last one 3d tho? 😀 — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment) <#1 (comment)>>, or mute the thread https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ AGQ8oy8kGEkMjZl6Cbu0dWSmS3IwbFw9ks5vYzjugaJpZM4M7ygx . 2.5 nature of the game was the main reason it was so playable on mobile devices. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o0wQzGWRwFJHmHV48Dji0xniQvGWks5vYz7egaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[electroscientistX]

Well, this time, it will be more playable even with 3d (wait for it)

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On Mar 21, 2019 1:42 PM, "Pavlov Andrew" ***@***.***> wrote: It used 3d objects but all movements was in 2d plane This time, it will be real 3d … <#m_4983498078211377752_> On Mar 21, 2019 1:16 PM, "Szymon Borecki" ***@***.***> wrote: Wasn't the last one 3d tho? 😀 — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment) <#1 (comment)>>, or mute the thread https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ AGQ8oy8kGEkMjZl6Cbu0dWSmS3IwbFw9ks5vYzjugaJpZM4M7ygx . 2.5 nature of the game was the main reason it was so playable on mobile devices. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o0wQzGWRwFJHmHV48Dji0xniQvGWks5vYz7egaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[mrsimb]

Now imagine how the player will move in three-dimensional space, quickly, without a keyboard and mouse. This will be hell on the touchscreen.

[electroscientistX]

one possible approach is building in 2d and simulating in 3d Consider something like this: you build stuff in 2d planes (xy, yz, xz) and there is a button for changing plane So, when you finish building and press play button, you will be able to play that thing in 3d world Now, you have simplicity of 2d in making and advancements of 3d while simulation This is just one thing I can think of, don't know which method will be used in Principia 2.0 or apparatus 2019 But only thing is it will be totally better than before, free and open source!

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On Mar 21, 2019 3:29 PM, "Pavlov Andrew" ***@***.***> wrote: Not to mention buildings complexity drop, due to higher performance requirements. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGQ8o9Y00ZyBB4Ub7no3RliEpLHAiaEWks5vY1fwgaJpZM4M7ygx> .

[shantanuaryan67]

@sdac Is the website archived. Missing the good old days.

[Blue-Beaker]

At least there need to be a "2.5D mode" that make objects move like that in the original Principia. But infinite layers (maybe customizable) in a 2.5d level maybe awesome.
And I think some features will be great:
No limits to slider values. maybe a "Pro mode" for this.
Interactive builder. Lets player to control objects like adventure robot builder, in its range. When in adventure mode, its range will be counted as build range. Input a signal to disable.
Interactive force gameplay setting. Interactive(interactive objects and builder function) dragging will have a force to push other objects away.
Object rename and list in edit mode. Easy to select objects far away and stacked objects.
Optimized synthesizer with no latency.

[markozajc]

@shantanzaryan67 You can visit the web archive snapshot. Works well, just can't actually download some of the levels.

[Blue-Beaker]

Hope the 3D simulation will be as stable as principia ones. At least a simple car with 4 wheels sized the same need to run a straight line without steering.

[markozajc]

Doesn't seem like this game will be released as FOSS anytime soon. Too bad, I was starting to like the concept.

[electroscientistX]

Yeah, why sdac just not uploading the source? Is it because he need some internet and don't have money for that? I can definitely give him a data plan recharge if he want to

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[JOELwindows7]

2020 April.

Nothing new..

[electroscientistX]

Generally, I'm pretty optimistic person but now, I think it won't happen :(

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On Apr 3, 2020 9:18 PM, "Joel Robert Justiawan" ***@***.***> wrote: 2020 April. Nothing new.. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABSDZI3TIR7OYMJ5W4ZJYX3RKYALPANCNFSM4DHPFAYQ> .

[charansairam]

:/
Used to play this as a high school boy who liked robots and stuff. Was really nice. Missing it a lot. I'm like 50% optimistic rn.
(T_T)

[electroscientistX]

Hi sai, i saw you first time... What's your principia username? Would you like to join only remaining community of principia on whatsapp?

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On Tue, 18 Aug, 2020, 14:22 P Sai Ram Charan, ***@***.***> wrote: :/ Used to play this as a high school boy who liked robots and stuff. Was really nice. Missing it a lot. I'm like 50% optimistic rn. (T_T) — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABSDZI7Q4ZQVCMT3UONX23LSBI6LNANCNFSM4DHPFAYQ> .

[charansairam]

Sure @electroscientistX principia username : bor3d, send the invite link :-)

Hi sai, i saw you first time... What's your principia username? Would you like to join only remaining community of principia on whatsapp?
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On Tue, 18 Aug, 2020, 14:22 P Sai Ram Charan, @.***> wrote: :/ Used to play this as a high school boy who liked robots and stuff. Was really nice. Missing it a lot. I'm like 50% optimistic rn. (T_T) — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or unsubscribe https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABSDZI7Q4ZQVCMT3UONX23LSBI6LNANCNFSM4DHPFAYQ .

[electroscientistX]

[phone] send me hi on whatsapp! On Wed, 19 Aug, 2020, 12:36 P Sai Ram Charan, <[email protected]> wrote:

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Sure @electroscientistX <https://github.com/electroscientistX> principia username : bor3d, send the invite link :-) Hi sai, i saw you first time... What's your principia username? Would you like to join only remaining community of principia on whatsapp? … <#m_-8804838167195477109_> On Tue, 18 Aug, 2020, 14:22 P Sai Ram Charan, *@*.***> wrote: :/ Used to play this as a high school boy who liked robots and stuff. Was really nice. Missing it a lot. I'm like 50% optimistic rn. (T_T) — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment) <#1 (comment)>>, or unsubscribe https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABSDZI7Q4ZQVCMT3UONX23LSBI6LNANCNFSM4DHPFAYQ . — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABSDZIZBDILL3H5BB6EN3ITSBN2ZDANCNFSM4DHPFAYQ> .

[rollerozxa]

imagine... principia source code as our christmas gift. wouldn't that be nice?

[electroscientistX]

Okay, THIS IS THE NEWS! WHAT'S THE ADDRESS???

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On Sun, 17 Jan, 2021, 14:14 ROllerozxa, ***@***.***> wrote: If it sounds too good to be true it probably is. :( Anyways, since Emil doesn't seem to care anymore I've been working on an unofficial community site. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABSDZI5GX4JXBUQP5775TO3S2KPNHANCNFSM4DHPFAYQ> .

[goodhumored]

This is very sad.
Maybe you'll build a developing team for creating opensource principia reincarnation?
It would be really great