Maps not work about yknytt

[fabzenfab]

Hello ;-)

why did you remove the colors in the map which indicated the different areas of the level ? it's very confusing now...

thanks

[fabzenfab]

Good morning,
I am not a programmer and perhaps you will find my question stupid... would it be possible to be able to mark certain boxes of the plan with an X for exemple. because in the big levels I never find where I have to come back.
I don't know if this feature exists or not but it would be super useful ;-)
Thank you

[djsolidsnake86]

[ms2048]

For a map to be available first you need the 'map' powerup.

You can add that powerup from within the console with the map command (~ - tilde key or pause+info keys both trigger the console on/off).

[djsolidsnake86]

For a map to be available first you need the 'map' powerup.

You can add that powerup from within the console with the map command (~ - tilde key or pause+info keys both trigger the console on/off).

this must be done for every level?

[ms2048]

Yes, as it is considered a cheat; some levels are far easier than intended with a map. It will persist after a save/load cycle though.

[djsolidsnake86]

maybe a option for enable it by default could be usefulf, is not a cheat

[ms2048]

Some levels actually give you a map at the start or as a collectible powerup. There are some that 'reshape' the map and define unique colors for some areas.

It is up to a level developer to decide. If you want to override that - then I suppose it would be cheating. Still, the situation is not so simple, as most levels are just plain KS levels (without mods) where a map was not available at all, so couldn't be given.

Anyway, the authors are generally against adding too many options, so I would predict a hard time convincing them. You can still try - but I would suggest doing this as a feature request and not a bug, as this issue should be closed.

[djsolidsnake86]

Some levels actually give you a map at the start or as a collectible powerup. There are some that 'reshape' the map and define unique colors for some areas.

It is up to a level developer to decide. If you want to override that - then I suppose it would be cheating. Still, the situation is not so simple, as most levels are just plain KS levels (without mods) where a map was not available at all, so couldn't be given.

Anyway, the authors are generally against adding too many options, so I would predict a hard time convincing them. You can still try - but I would suggest doing this as a feature request and not a bug, as this issue should be closed.

well knitt stories ex do the map by default, and really help this!

[ms2048]

Personally I agree this would be useful, as this is always a first thing I do on every level.

[Lt-knb]

KS+ has a feature called "Force map on".
By enabling it, a level with no map will force the regular map (not the map power).
That means you would only see the screens you visited, not unexplored ones.
That's a great way to make a level less disorienting without spoiling the whole level's structure.
I guess that feature isn't implemented yet in Yknytt

[ms2048]

Try the level 'Frozen Mountain 2' - it has the map on by default, but you can only see the locations you've already visited. I suppose this means that it is already implemented in YKnytt, at least partially.

[Lt-knb]

So the regular map is implemented, but "Force map on" isn't, I guess

[djsolidsnake86]

exactly, only frozen mountain 2 show the map
all other levels no map, in knytt stories extended mod the force map is implemented and work with all maps
hope this trick will be added
thanks

[ms2048]

your last suggestion is a duplicate of #192

[fabzenfab]

Ok I didn't see ;-)

[up-left]

I made "forced map" setting for the new version and enabled it by default. It's a controversial question, some levels with Format=2 will show garbage instead of map, orientation challenge will be lost, but on some cases it will be very useful. I can only guess which option is better. But pressing 'M' is a voluntary action, so I enabled map by default.

[fabzenfab]

thank you, the main thing is that the card is available.
Afterwards, it is up to us to activate it or not depending on each level
great job !