Successive calls to Deriv influences result about deriv

[notEvil]

hope you didn't already try to find the problem. It's the following :)

diff --git a/R/Deriv.R b/R/Deriv.R
index a9b0edc..2ee6dcf 100644
--- a/R/Deriv.R
+++ b/R/Deriv.R
@@ -164,7 +164,7 @@ Deriv <- function(f, x=if (is.function(f)) names(formals(f)) else all.vars(if (i
                f <- substitute(f)
        }
        # clean dsym env
-   rm(list=ls(dsym), envir=dsym)
+   rm(list=ls(dsym, all.names=T), envir=dsym)
        if (is.null(env))
                env <- .GlobalEnv
        if (is.null(x)) {

[sgsokol]

Thanks for the bug and fix. Unfortunately, the proposed solution fixes only the above example. There would still be issues with more complicated nested calls.
It is fixed in the version 3.5

[sgsokol]

Hi,

I don't know if you have received automatic notifications from github,
so may be this message is superfluous.

Both of your issues are fixed now (cf v3.5 on github).

If no new problem appears meanwhile, I'll submit this version to CRAN
in two weeks.

Thanks for your interest and inputs.

Best,
Serguei.

Le 25/05/2015 13:39, notEvil a écrit :

hope you didn't already try to find the problem. It's the following :)

|diff --git a/R/Deriv.R b/R/Deriv.R
index a9b0edc..2ee6dcf 100644
--- a/R/Deriv.R
+++ b/R/Deriv.R
@@ -164,7 +164,7 @@ Deriv <- function(f, x=if (is.function(f)) names(formals(f)) else all.vars(if (i
f <- substitute(f)
}
# clean dsym env

• rm(list=ls(dsym), envir=dsym)
• rm(list=ls(dsym, all.names=T), envir=dsym)
  if (is.null(env))
  env <- .GlobalEnv
  if (is.null(x)) {
  |

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[notEvil]

I have, thank you.

I can't promise to find any further bugs soon, so go ahead :)
In the near future I plan to release an R package which benefits a lot
from your package!

As for the issue: might Deriv still return a wrong but valid expression
due to variable naming?

Best, Andreas

On 05/26/2015 05:38 PM, Serguei Sokol wrote:

Hi,

I don't know if you have received automatic notifications from github,
so may be this message is superfluous.

Both of your issues are fixed now (cf v3.5 on github).

If no new problem appears meanwhile, I'll submit this version to CRAN
in two weeks.

Thanks for your interest and inputs.

Best,
Serguei.

Le 25/05/2015 13:39, notEvil a écrit :

hope you didn't already try to find the problem. It's the following :)

|diff --git a/R/Deriv.R b/R/Deriv.R
index a9b0edc..2ee6dcf 100644
--- a/R/Deriv.R
+++ b/R/Deriv.R
@@ -164,7 +164,7 @@ Deriv <- function(f, x=if (is.function(f))
names(formals(f)) else all.vars(if (i
f <- substitute(f)
}

clean dsym env

• rm(list=ls(dsym), envir=dsym)
• rm(list=ls(dsym, all.names=T), envir=dsym)
  if (is.null(env))
  env <- .GlobalEnv
  if (is.null(x)) {
  |

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[sgsokol]

Le 26/05/2015 20:43, notEvil a écrit :

I have, thank you.

I can't promise to find any further bugs soon, so go ahead :)
In the near future I plan to release an R package which benefits a lot
from your package!
To my knowledge, it will be premiere :)

As for the issue: might Deriv still return a wrong but valid expression
due to variable naming?
I am afraid, I don't understand the question. Do you have an example
of such situation?

Btw, there is v3.5.1 now with a small fix in Cache() function.

Best,
Sergueï.

[notEvil]

I was refering to your statement
"Unfortunately, the proposed solution fixes only the above example.
There would still be issues with more complicated nested calls."

I didn't know whether you meant that the fix is incomplete (as in there
exists a general fix) or that it's just a fix for this particular
sequence and it's still unsafe if there are nested calls, even with the
new version.

Imagine the expression consists of .eXYZ and Deriv (or better Simplify)
decides to create a cached expression with the same name, this would
result in an expression which would still evaluate but is simply wrong.

Hope it clears things up.

Best, Andreas

On 05/27/2015 03:55 PM, Serguei Sokol wrote:

Le 26/05/2015 20:43, notEvil a écrit :

I have, thank you.

I can't promise to find any further bugs soon, so go ahead :)
In the near future I plan to release an R package which benefits a lot
from your package!
To my knowledge, it will be premiere :)

As for the issue: might Deriv still return a wrong but valid expression
due to variable naming?
I am afraid, I don't understand the question. Do you have an example
of such situation?

Btw, there is v3.5.1 now with a small fix in Cache() function.

Best,
Sergueï.

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[sgsokol]

Le 27/05/2015 17:51, notEvil a écrit :

I was refering to your statement
"Unfortunately, the proposed solution fixes only the above example.
There would still be issues with more complicated nested calls."

I didn't know whether you meant that the fix is incomplete (as in there
exists a general fix) or that it's just a fix for this particular
sequence and it's still unsafe if there are nested calls, even with the
new version.

Imagine the expression consists of .eXYZ and Deriv (or better Simplify)
decides to create a cached expression with the same name, this would
result in an expression which would still evaluate but is simply wrong.

Hope it clears things up.
Yes, it is clear now.
Your example of nested call is particular in a sens that the innermost
call to Deriv() is made before than the outermost one has something to do.
Imagine a different call structure like this:
Deriv
some operations modifying dsym
Deriv (here the fact that dsym is erased can interfer this the precedent call to Deriv)
some other operations needing original dsym

That's why, a general case of nested calls to Deriv requires a local dsym
(and scache by the same occasion).

Hope it helps.
Serguei.

Best, Andreas

On 05/27/2015 03:55 PM, Serguei Sokol wrote:

Le 26/05/2015 20:43, notEvil a écrit :

I have, thank you.

I can't promise to find any further bugs soon, so go ahead :)
In the near future I plan to release an R package which benefits a lot
from your package!
To my knowledge, it will be premiere :)

As for the issue: might Deriv still return a wrong but valid expression
due to variable naming?
I am afraid, I don't understand the question. Do you have an example
of such situation?

Btw, there is v3.5.1 now with a small fix in Cache() function.

Best,
Sergueï.

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[notEvil]

Now everything is clear to me. Thank you for your time to explain.

On 05/28/2015 01:28 PM, Serguei Sokol wrote:

Le 27/05/2015 17:51, notEvil a écrit :

I was refering to your statement
"Unfortunately, the proposed solution fixes only the above example.
There would still be issues with more complicated nested calls."

I didn't know whether you meant that the fix is incomplete (as in there
exists a general fix) or that it's just a fix for this particular
sequence and it's still unsafe if there are nested calls, even with the
new version.

Imagine the expression consists of .eXYZ and Deriv (or better Simplify)
decides to create a cached expression with the same name, this would
result in an expression which would still evaluate but is simply wrong.

Hope it clears things up.
Yes, it is clear now.
Your example of nested call is particular in a sens that the innermost
call to Deriv() is made before than the outermost one has something to do.
Imagine a different call structure like this:
Deriv
some operations modifying dsym
Deriv (here the fact that dsym is erased can interfer this the precedent
call to Deriv)
some other operations needing original dsym

That's why, a general case of nested calls to Deriv requires a local dsym
(and scache by the same occasion).

Hope it helps.
Serguei.

Best, Andreas

On 05/27/2015 03:55 PM, Serguei Sokol wrote:

Le 26/05/2015 20:43, notEvil a écrit :

I have, thank you.

I can't promise to find any further bugs soon, so go ahead :)
In the near future I plan to release an R package which benefits
a lot
from your package!
To my knowledge, it will be premiere :)

As for the issue: might Deriv still return a wrong but valid
expression
due to variable naming?
I am afraid, I don't understand the question. Do you have an example
of such situation?

Btw, there is v3.5.1 now with a small fix in Cache() function.

Best,
Sergueï.

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