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ropensci-books avatar ropensci-books commented on August 28, 2024
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wlandau avatar wlandau commented on August 28, 2024

The biggest potential difference I see to this (relative to Metaflow's approach to AWS) is that the targets data store will probably live locally. But it's not so bad because drake users want this behavior anyway so they can explore data interactively (example: ropensci/drake#1295). And as @noamross pointed out, aws.s3::s3sync() can upload the data store to an S3 bucket. _targets/ is super light relative to .drake/, so this shouldn't be too painful for most projects.

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wlandau avatar wlandau commented on August 28, 2024

If cloudyr packages still work, tar_make_future() can probably already talk to multiple AWS instances: https://gist.github.com/DavisVaughan/5aac4a2757c0947a499d25d28a8ca89b. But the data will still live locally.

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wlandau avatar wlandau commented on August 28, 2024

@MilesMcBain, your team uses AWS, right? What's your preferred way to interact with it?

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wlandau avatar wlandau commented on August 28, 2024

I read up more on AWS ParallelCluster, AWS Batch, and Metaflow's HPC, and targets' capabilities are not ready for a cloud computing guide yet. But I think development on top of paws can get us much of the way there.

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MilesMcBain avatar MilesMcBain commented on August 28, 2024

Hey @wlandau, so far we have preferred to call the AWS CLI directly. This is mainly due to a combination of very simple workflows, and uncertainty about the stability of the AWS-R ecosystem.

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wlandau avatar wlandau commented on August 28, 2024

That's helpful, I know cloudyr has had a rough time. What do you think about paws? I'm hoping it can help with ropensci/targets#152 either directly or through HenrikBengtsson/future#415 or mschubert/clustermq#102 (comment).

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wlandau avatar wlandau commented on August 28, 2024

Reopening. I plan to write about ropensci/targets#176 at least.

I will keep my eye on R + cloud packages. Looks like aws.s3 has been updated in May, which is a good sign. And paws is under constant development but isn't quite there for the new S3 feature set in targets.

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wlandau-lilly avatar wlandau-lilly commented on August 28, 2024

Just wrote about S3 integration in the new cloud chapter. Will reopen after ropensci/targets#152.

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