Ask/Followup on Matplotlib about python3statement.github.io

[takluyver]

For reference, here's the matplotlib-devel thread where this was raised:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/matplotlib-devel/2016-May/000374.html

@tacaswell So far it looks like there has been no pushback on the proposed schedule, at least publicly. How long do you want to wait for responses? Have you had any private feedback on it?

[tacaswell]

I have not heard any feedback public or private, just sent as email to try and shake the bushes a bit.

[takluyver]

It looks like there's a bit more discussion now, and it mostly seems favourable. Are you happy for us to put matplotlib on the list?

[fmaussion]

I find the few number of responses (negative or positive) very suspicious... This can only mean one thing: the scientific python community is either in phase 1 (denial) or phase 5 (acceptance) of the transition ;-) (http://www.snarky.ca/the-stages-of-the-python-3-transition)

[takluyver]

I think the community that is active on mailing lists mostly accepts it at this point. I'm sure this will still be somewhat controversial to a wider audience, but that's why we're making this statement: to communicate to people who might be assuming that we'll support Python 2.7 for ever that we're not planning to do that. Crucially, we're doing it well in advance, to lay the groundwork for dropping Python 2 support in a few years - so we're not pulling the rug out from under people suddenly.

[Carreau]

I find the few number of responses (negative or positive) very suspicious...

I was astonished also for matplotlib, but scikit image seem to have a bit more of a pushback. Discussing with numpy dev, it's not the right time to ask, even if they would like to. So my guess is that the state really depend on the project.

[takluyver]

This has made it to reddit, via Aaron's blog post, so it's probably going to get a lot of eyeballs shortly. @tacaswell , do you want us to put matplotlib on the list?

[Carreau]

It's ok, it's only on /r/python, /r/programming or frontpage pour have been
bad.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Thomas Kluyver [email protected]
wrote:

This has made it to reddit, via Aaron's blog post, so it's probably going
to get a lot of eyeballs shortly. @tacaswell
https://github.com/tacaswell , do you want us to put matplotlib on the
list?

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[tacaswell]

Yes, just sent a summary email to matplotlib-devel. Would it be possible
to include a link to that discussion someplace on the webpage?

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:58 PM Matthias Bussonnier <
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It's ok, it's only on /r/python, /r/programming or frontpage pour have been
bad.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Thomas Kluyver [email protected]
wrote:

This has made it to reddit, via Aaron's blog post, so it's probably going
to get a lot of eyeballs shortly. @tacaswell
https://github.com/tacaswell , do you want us to put matplotlib on the
list?

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[Carreau]

Would it be possible
to include a link to that discussion someplace on the webpage?

Of course.

[asmeurer]

Yeah, somehow Reddit has no comments and almost no upvotes. It's number 5 on Hacker News right now, though.

[Carreau]

Yeah, somehow Reddit has no comments and almost no upvotes. It's number 5 on Hacker News right now, though.

Ouch.

BTW, @asmeurer want to be part of the org ? You kind of initiated that.

[asmeurer]

Sure

[Carreau]

Matplotlib is now on the list.