Improve ``NameError`` message when non-mangled name exists in the global scope about cpython

[pablogsal]

I can take a look this weekend 👍

[Eclips4]

Hmm...... But I'm trying to call a function outside the class. Why should it "mangled"? Shouldn't it happen only I am trying to get a class method?

In an ideal world, yes. But how do we determine that some lookups inside the class body are class-specific? These slow down performance due to additional lookups and just slightly increase user experience. To summarize, just don't name your functions with double leading underscores. :)

[pablogsal]

Yeah they normally go in tandem. I will let you know what we decide here once I have some time to play with this

[Eclips4]

This is intended behaviour. Explanation: https://docs.python.org/3.12/faq/programming.html#i-try-to-use-spam-and-i-get-an-error-about-someclassname-spam.

[PC-Killer]

Hmm...... But I'm trying to call a function outside the class. Why should it "mangled"? Shouldn't it happen only I am trying to get a class method?   Anonymous ***@***.***  

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[PC-Killer]

That's perhaps the best solution:) But, could the interpreter tell the user the problem when it show the error? I don't think showing error needs to be as fast as possible :)  Anonymous ***@***.***  

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[Eclips4]

That's perhaps the best solution:) But, could the interpreter tell the user the problem when it show the error? I don't think showing error needs to be as fast as possible :)

Yes, that's sounds reasonable for me.

[Eclips4]

cc @pablogsal Do you think it's worth improving the error message for "NameError" in such cases?

[SweetyAngel]

I want to extend this issue.
This code:

def __a():
    print("A")


class A:
    def b(self):
        self.__a()


a = A()
a.b()

throws another error:

AttributeError: 'A' object has no attribute '_A__a'

If NameError is planning to be improved, this should be also fixed