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jpmckinney avatar jpmckinney commented on August 19, 2024

Is it worth adding a new property instead of using other_names?

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tmtmtmtm avatar tmtmtmtm commented on August 19, 2024

I would say it's fine to use other_names as long as there's a consistent way of referencing it.

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akuckartz avatar akuckartz commented on August 19, 2024

In Germany such abbreviations have a legal foundation and legal inplications. That is one more reason to use a specific property.

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jpmckinney avatar jpmckinney commented on August 19, 2024

@akuckartz Can you give an example to help to document the use case?

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LegoStormtroopr avatar LegoStormtroopr commented on August 19, 2024

We are looking into this as well, and have settled in our internal implementation on code. This is based on the formal "abbreviated name" registered with the Australian Electoral Commission: http://www.aec.gov.au/Parties_and_Representatives/Party_Registration/Registered_parties/index.htm

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jpmckinney avatar jpmckinney commented on August 19, 2024

How does code differ semantically from identifier?

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LegoStormtroopr avatar LegoStormtroopr commented on August 19, 2024

identifier can be repeated, we needed to have a strict one-to-code relation of each political Party having a code, rather than having to specify a generic identifier and then have a controlled vocabulary for each a 'party code' identifier type.

Although, in our implementation we've attached this on a subclass of Organisation called Party, so it still conforms.

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akuckartz avatar akuckartz commented on August 19, 2024

@jpmckinney Official short names are for example SPD or F.D.P. (the dots are part of this short name) but longer ones such as "Tierschutzallianz" also exist.

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jpmckinney avatar jpmckinney commented on August 19, 2024

FYI, perhaps an issue to raise with EU's Core Public Organisation Vocabulary working group.

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akuckartz avatar akuckartz commented on August 19, 2024

The CPOV draft currently states this:

5.1.3. Property: identifier [0..n]
Many organisations are referred to by an acronym or some other identifier. For
example, the ECB for the European Central Bank, OLAF for the European Anti-Fraud
Office, and so on. These are formally recognised by the European Commission
which provides a list of such acronyms.

In the RDF release of the CPOV, this property is bound to org:identifier.

A footnote refers to http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/ramon/cybernews/abbreviations.htm

I will probably raise an issue for CPOV to suggest adding political parties. EDIT: Done, see https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/cpov/issue/extend-description-identifier

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jpmckinney avatar jpmckinney commented on August 19, 2024

ROLL UP

  • Add guidance to use other_names for all/most names
  • Add guidance to use identifiers for official abbreviations (e.g. "Registered Abbreviation" in Australia), with a scheme matching the issuer of abbreviations (e.g. "Australian Electoral Commission")

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