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board707 avatar board707 commented on August 16, 2024

Any explanation or solution to achieve the (right) brightness with four lines?

Unfortunately, there is no way you can achieve this brightness. This is how the hub panel works
Your matrix has 1/16 scan, it means that it divided by 16 parts, switched one after another, so every pixel lit only 1/16 part of total time.
When you switch on the matrix without mcu, some random pixels lights statically and its brightness 16 times more than in normal mode.

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jwee1369 avatar jwee1369 commented on August 16, 2024

@board707 that makes sense, thanks for the explanation.

It seems like the LEDs are somehow being limited from its full brightness potential. I have tried other libraries on arduino and this seems to be the case as well. Is the limit being set at the hardware level or software level? Any way to possibly increase the brightness through other means?

Thanks!

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board707 avatar board707 commented on August 16, 2024

It seems like the LEDs are somehow being limited from its full brightness potential.

It seems to me that you did not fully understand my explanation. The diodes glow dimly not because someone has limited their brightness, but because they only light part of the time. . PWM signal principle

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jwee1369 avatar jwee1369 commented on August 16, 2024

sorry I misunderstood, I assume setting the brightness sets the PWM signal pulse to 100% duty cycle.

I'm just trying to understand what is limiting the led brightness since it can technically go brighter - in the second image when the 16 scans were all output to the same row of leds 16 times. In normal operation when one row only get one scan, it is rather dim.

Is this limited by the driver current output for each of the scan, since 16 scans towards 1 row is brighter

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board707 avatar board707 commented on August 16, 2024

Sorry, I don't know English well and I can't explain it more clearly
Re-read my first answer

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jwee1369 avatar jwee1369 commented on August 16, 2024

No problem, thank you for your help 😊

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board707 avatar board707 commented on August 16, 2024

what is limiting the led brightness

The fact that every led is lit only 1/16 part of total time. You can't change this, Try to understand.

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jwee1369 avatar jwee1369 commented on August 16, 2024

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this, but reading other libraries, there are ways around it. Any chance we could implement the same solution for this library?

https://community.pixelmatix.com/t/how-to-maximise-led-brightness/1206/2
hzeller/rpi-rgb-led-matrix#395

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board707 avatar board707 commented on August 16, 2024

Any chance we could implement the same solution for this library?

What the solution? The link to the pixelmatrix forum recommends you get an 8s panels instead of 16s - it definitely helps you to increase the brightness, but not the brightness of your current panel.
The second link is about the tweaking the parameters of hzeller's library - it hardly has something to do with the current library.

Sorry by repeating the same - but the fact that the total brightness of 16s panels is only 1/16 of the nominal brightness of its leds - it is not a bug or incorrect hardware settings, it is by design and how the HUB75 panels works. There is no "solution" for it.

But you can still trying to look at "hacks" if you want.

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mrcodetastic avatar mrcodetastic commented on August 16, 2024

Outdoor panels are 1/8 or 1/4 scan for this reason. They're brighter as the "on" time for each row isn't divided as much.

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