Applying K12's "vine" construction to other sponges about gokangarootwelve

[mimoo]

I would think so, also have you checked BLAKE3 which uses bao? Since it's more recent it might be better? Not sure.

[DonaldTsang]

@mimoo yeah BLAKE3 isn't sponge based but K12 is, so maybe it is possible to modify BLAKE3 into a sponge?

[mimoo]

No I meant, Bao specifically: https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/a2dujv/introducing_bao_a_generalpurpose_cryptographic/

[DonaldTsang]

But bao is a tree construction that does not note on the structure of the internal hash (reduced round BLAKE which is HAIFA originally), while K12 is a Vine construction that uses a sponge function Keccak1600...

I think that both the bao construction and the Vine construction should allow the use of ANY hash "compression" function, variety is the spice of life after all (and Vines are easier to implement than tree hashes like bao for a layman).