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RedAV8R avatar RedAV8R commented on July 29, 2024

Thank you! We'll take a look.

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NathanKell avatar NathanKell commented on July 29, 2024

When I initially wrote these I modeled the Mk1 on Mercury, and the Mk1-2 on Apollo. Thus the Mk1 doesn't need to be in space very long, and just has batteries (13.5kWh). The Mk1-2, on the other hand, is expected to be in space for a long time, and thus must depend on either solar panels or fuel cells; for that reason, only a reserve battery capacity is necessary (3.4kWh).
The landers IRL didn't use fuel cells, thus they got batteries.

Since we now actually have Mercury and Apollo hardware, it might be worth reconsidering just whether / to what the Mk1 and Mk1-2 should be repurposed...

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pjf avatar pjf commented on July 29, 2024

@NathanKell : Aaah! That makes sense. It also feels thematic that I'm adding a service module with TACLS fuel cells to my MK1-2 craft, although I don't know if those cells have been rebalanced for the new TACLS changes.

I presume¹ 3.4kWh is enough for reentry. ;)

I'm happy enough with the stock craft mirroring their RL equivalents; I use them over the Mercury/Apollo capsules primarily because I keep forgetting essential parts on the RL capsules, which results in fun².

~ pjf

¹ This phrase always makes Jeb nervous when I use it.
² Kerbal Fortress: Landing is Fun.

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pjf avatar pjf commented on July 29, 2024

This may have nothing to do with RO, but I can't for the life of me get the Mk1-2 pod or the Mk1 pod to start with ElectricCharge, which is odd, because the Mercury re-entry module and the Gemini cabin are working just fine, as are the stock lander cans.

As far as I can tell, nothing else is touching ElectricCharge. And I presume resources on a part still get used even if there's a MFT for that part, because that's what's happening with the landing cans.

If you can spot anything that's obviously going wrong here, I'd love to know about it. As I said, this may not be an RO issue at all, but something is causing at least some of RO's changes to not be applied.

Many thanks!

~ pjf

[LOG 15:34:18.804] [ModuleManager] Applying node ConnectedLivingSpace/Plugins/CLSStock/@PART[Mark1-2Pod]:HAS[!MODULE[ModuleConnectedLivingSpace]] to Squad/Parts/Command/Mk1-2Pod/part/Mark1-2Pod
[LOG 15:34:19.261] [ModuleManager] Applying node DeadlyReentry/DeadlyReentry/@PART[Mark1-2Pod] to Squad/Parts/Command/Mk1-2Pod/part/Mark1-2Pod
[LOG 15:34:23.223] [ModuleManager] Applying node ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads/EL_MM/@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleCommand],!MODULE[ExWorkshop]] to Squad/Parts/Command/Mk1-2Pod/part/Mark1-2Pod
[LOG 15:34:23.399] [ModuleManager] Applying node JSI/RPMPodPatches/PatchesStock/mk12pod-patch/@PART[*]:HAS[@INTERNAL[PodCockpit]] to Squad/Parts/Command/Mk1-2Pod/part/Mark1-2Pod
[LOG 15:34:47.584] [ModuleManager] Applying node ThunderAerospace/TacLifeSupport/MM_AddLifeSupportModule/@PART[*]:HAS[!MODULE[LifeSupportModule],#CrewCapacity[3]]:FOR[TacLifeSupport] to Squad/Parts/Command/Mk1-2Pod/part/Mark1-2Pod
[LOG 15:34:55.572] [ModuleManager] Applying node RealismOverhaul/RO_Squad_Pods/@PART[Mark1-2Pod]:FOR[RealismOverhaul] to Squad/Parts/Command/Mk1-2Pod/part/Mark1-2Pod
[LOG 15:35:03.300] [ModuleManager] Applying node Diazo/AGExt/part/@PART[*]:Final to Squad/Parts/Command/Mk1-2Pod/part/Mark1-2Pod
[LOG 15:35:03.463] [ModuleManager] Applying node JSI/RasterPropMonitor/Plugins/invisible-pods-handling/@PART[*]:HAS[@INTERNAL[*],!MODULE[JSITransparentPod],!MODULE[JSINonTransparentPod]]:Final to Squad/Parts/Command/Mk1-2Pod/part/Mark1-2Pod
[LOG 15:35:03.537] [ModuleManager] Applying node MechJeb2 Embedded by Dennis6492/MechJebEmbedded/@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleCommand],!MODULE[MechJebCore]]:Final to Squad/Parts/Command/Mk1-2Pod/part/Mark1-2Pod

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NathanKell avatar NathanKell commented on July 29, 2024

Hahahah I'm stupid.
We added ServiceModules. ServiceModules can contain ElectricCharge. Therefore resources outside the modulefueltank are ignored. Like, oh, the 46k electric charge.
So we need larger ServiceModule tanks, and one of the TANKs should be the appropriate amount of ElectricCharge.

Sorry for totally missing this consequence!

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pjf avatar pjf commented on July 29, 2024

Hooray! I'm so glad this has been found. :)

I've noticed 76dffea has been committed; after my run I'll install this and see how things go. :)

You rock!

<3 pjf

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pjf avatar pjf commented on July 29, 2024

And I can confirm this is working. Marking as closed. :)

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