Inconsistent dialog when deleting tag about frontend

[matthiasdebaat]

As the tag would still exist after you remove it from Home Assistant, we should change the button tot Remove.

[silamon]

So we should use "remove" because the tag still physically exists or did I misunderstand that?

[matthiasdebaat]

Correct

[silamon]

I'm not sure if I would follow for that reason to make it "remove". It still deletes the tag from Home Assistant in a non recoverable way. "remove" mentions it is kept in existence, which means it's still somewhere around but no longer associated or referenced.
We also use "delete" for floors and areas for example, which also exist physically, which is sort of the same example. I think the line should be crossed to say that "delete" and "remove" apply for things in Home Assistant.

[matthiasdebaat]

I've researched it a bit more and come to the following conclusion:

• The term Remove should always be used when an item/setting or content is to be removed or disassociated, but the action can be reversed or reapplied.
• The term Delete should always be used to refer to any action that will cause the permanent deletion of an item/setting or content.

Added this to our design docs #21297

In this case, you can add the tag again. It's recoverable, so it can be Remove.
At the same time when removing a tag, you will break automations. That is a non-recoverable action, so it can be Delete.

I can live with both.

[silamon]

I've opened a pull request for "delete" if you don't mind. Reading the design doc, I still interpret "delete" as delete everything that is known to the tag while "remove" to me is clear the associations, but keep the tag present in Home Assistant.
In fact, everything is recoverable, depending on how much time you want to spend.

[silamon]

After reading these resources below, it follows your previous/current design documentation with the addition that "remove" can also be used if you delete something to the trash can, which means it can be undone and thus recoverable.

• https://adnanpuzic.medium.com/the-difference-between-remove-and-delete-7f6c1771e40f
• https://uxmovement.com/buttons/remove-vs-delete-when-to-use-which/