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gsa avatar gsa commented on July 21, 2024
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MattKing1 avatar MattKing1 commented on July 21, 2024

The Trust Store Management Guide can be found here.

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godadada avatar godadada commented on July 21, 2024

Hi Participants,

I have been assigned this issue. Please let me know the status, open, closed etc?

Thanks
Chunde

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weirdscience avatar weirdscience commented on July 21, 2024

I do not think it has been totally converted. Trust store management part hasn't been added (e.g. How to trim/modify Microsoft, apple, Mozilla trust stores)

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godadada avatar godadada commented on July 21, 2024

Thanks Ken.
I will carry on the conversion.
Any further info is much appreciated: requirements, pointers to contacts who may know more, etc?

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lachellel avatar lachellel commented on July 21, 2024

Please see a portion of the outline here:

From the document directly:

  • Section 2.1 is dangerous and not recommended (removing all trusted roots)
  • Section 2.2 can be copied from PIV guides and trust stores - no need for screenshots as the location is more important than Windows based steps
  • Section 2.3 same as 2.2 - and we started the information here: https://github.com/GSA/fpki-guides/blob/staging/pages/fpki_crls.md
  • Section 2.4 is in piv-guides (and it's not quite a GPO, which was feedback when the doc was originally published)
  • Section 2.5 has a placeholder in the top link in this issue post
  • Section 2.6 same as Section 2.5

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godadada avatar godadada commented on July 21, 2024

Thanks Lachellel.

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godadada avatar godadada commented on July 21, 2024

Near term To do list for Trust Store Management Guide #9

  1. Conversion to github/md

  2. Trust store management
    How to trim/modify MS, Apple, Mozilla, Adobe trust store
    Finish “How do I manager a Trust Store?
    Follow the templet done for MS OS

  3. Section 2.1 is dangerous and not recommended (removing all trusted roots)

  4. Section 2.2 can be copied from PIV guides and trust stores - no need for screenshots as the location is more important than Windows based steps

  5. Section 2.3 same as 2.2 - and we started the information here: https://github.com/GSA/fpki-guides/blob/staging/pages/fpki_crls.md

  6. Section 2.4 is in piv-guides (and it's not quite a GPO, which was feedback when the doc was originally published)

  7. Section 2.5 has a placeholder in the top link in this issue post

  8. Section 2.6 same as Section 2.5

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lachellel avatar lachellel commented on July 21, 2024

@godadada
I just merged #71 from @weirdscience. Including additions to trust stores.

wrt

Conversion to github/md

Most has been completed for minimum viable

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godadada avatar godadada commented on July 21, 2024

"Trust Store" and "Trust Anchor Store" seem to be same concept; but the later is used by IETF RFC 6024, 5914, and 5934. Also it highlights the entry point of trust by using "Anchor". I would suggest we use "Trust Anchor Store" in place of "Trust Store".

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Chunde

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lachellel avatar lachellel commented on July 21, 2024

What do normal engineers understand best? [RFC is not a plain language model. sorry IETF colleagues!]

I used Trust Store because I found it to appeal to a broader audience: https://piv.idmanagement.gov/piv-guides/networkconfig/trustedroots/

And searches online. 👍

truststore is also java language (keystore vs truststore)

https doesn't use either and explained the requirements in even broader terms, plain language, focused on an audience: https://https.cio.gov/certificates/

Don't have a strong opinion except that we have 1) consistency and 2) it works for the intended audience

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clstmbrly avatar clstmbrly commented on July 21, 2024

Agree that we should use “Trust Store,” since it is accepted by a broader audience. Recommend that because the IETF RFCs use the term, “Trust Anchor Store,” we include a footnote (at first mention of “Trust Store” in the text) that explains: “‘Trust Anchor Store’ is also an industry-accepted term. See RFCs 5914, 5934, and 6024.” If a bibliography will be included in the FPKI Guides, then we should add the full document references for the 3 RFCs.

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godadada avatar godadada commented on July 21, 2024

@lachellel

Hey Lachellel,
I do not find the PIV Guide of item 4 of your list above applicable to the Trust Store. Please point out specific content from PIV Guide you want me to copy.
Could you also elaborate "Section 2.6 same as Section 2.5"?

Thanks
Chunde

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clstmbrly avatar clstmbrly commented on July 21, 2024

@lachellel @djpackham In "The most common Trust Stores belong to what vendors?" section table, under the Adobe entry, the link given was for www.apple.com (a mistake, I'm pretty sure). @godadada is searching for a correct link. In the meantime, for the Pull Request, I put in this link that I found: https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/approved-trust-list2.html.

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lachellel avatar lachellel commented on July 21, 2024

closed via #101 and previous prs

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