Functional AD about flux.jl

[MikeInnes]

I guess that would have to be grad(loss, (W, b, x), x, y). Although that really makes it clear that loss should just be a zero-arg function, like grad(() -> loss(x, y), [W, b, x]).

[dfdx]

W and b are treated as implicit arguments to the function; this is nice in that it's essentially the ideal functional interface but without the mess of hundreds of explicit arguments.

Does this mean that a user will need to make W and b global and loss to be defined in the same context? This doesn't sound very flexible, to be honest. Recently I've been playing around (e.g. in VariationalAE.jl) with models as mutable structs. For your case it would look something like:

m = Linear(W, b)
loss(m::Linear, x, y) = mse(m.W * x .+ m.b, y)
dm = grad(loss, m, x, y)

where dm is another instance of Linear holding derivatives, i.e.:

dW = dm.W
db = dm.b

[MikeInnes]

Does this mean that a user will need to make W and b global and loss to be defined in the same context?

Er, no? For the most part I'm not expecting any thing else to look different; so the MNIST example would stay exactly the same. It's really no different to the current TrackedArray approach in that sense, just without the hacky overloading.

Your API is something we discussed as it's closer to what Knet currently has. At a minimum it only scales up well if you allow the structure to define the forward pass (e.g. via call overloading). Even then it imposes a bigger burden on user-defined types and small models, and it's harder to figure out how it plays when you get to really complex models (as one example, higher-order models that take another model as input).

[dfdx]

Ah, I re-read the MNIST example. Do I understand correctly that loss() is actually a closure bound to an instance of object m::Chain? In this case my comment is indeed irrelevant.

[MikeInnes]

Essentially yes, it's not actually a closure in this case because it's global, but it could be. In the docs there are some examples of closing over parameters, and I expect those to work with Cassette as well.

[baggepinnen]

How would the user go about taking the gradient of a model output with respect to a non-parmameter like the input? This is common in creating adverserial examples, linearizing dynamical models etc.

[MikeInnes]

A year on we can do some much cooler things here. Closing in favour of #628.