Open issue: relax requirement that type be enumerable to participate in collection expressions about csharplang

[jnm2]

There was a community request for this exact issue description at #7398 (reply in thread).

Also, it would enable Memory<T> (which has no GetEnumerator) to add [CollectionBuilder] and be targeted by collection expressions without being special-cased by the compiler.

[RikkiGibson]

Old collection initializers had a requirement to implement IEnumerable because without it, it was felt to be unclear if just an Add(T) taking a parameter of some type is intended for adding an element to a collection, or for e.g. performing arithmetic.

I think a type with [CollectionBuilder] not needing to be enumerable is a bit easier of a sell, as adding the attribute to the type very clearly indicates the associated Create method is intended for creating a collection. And folks who are interested in creating "write-only" collections should be able to onboard to it and get the experience they want.

[CyrusNajmabadi]

I see. Imo the better fix at the language level is for implicit operators to participate in collection expression target typing.

If you have an implicit operators from array, then this should ideally just work.

[CyrusNajmabadi]

Not sure how I feel about this.

Why not make it enumerable?

Seems very weird that you found use a collection to create it, but then not be able to iterate it.

[jcouv]

Here's the roslyn example that prompted this issue: dotnet/roslyn#71134
Having a dummy/unused IEnumerable implementation seems superfluous.

[CyrusNajmabadi]

I guess the same feelings existed for collection expressions :-). I'll look at the example though!

[333fred]

We explicitly (no pun intended) excluded that when we did not make a collection expression conversion a standard implicit conversion.

[CyrusNajmabadi]

We explicitly (no pun intended) excluded that when we did not make a collection expression conversion a standard implicit conversion.

Yup yup. But I'm curious if we might reconsider given some real world use case.

That said, CSharpSources seems, to me, to indicate a collection type. So not being enumerable is frankly kinda strange. I'll have to look and see how you guys actually end up using this.

[333fred]

I'll have to look and see how you guys actually end up using this.

We basically always realize it to a flattened array when we actually go to access it.

[CyrusNajmabadi]

so you have a collection type which is like an array, but it's all wonky on conversions to/from an array. go tit. :)

not sure how i feel about this case. seems very different than basically like everything else out there. note that i view collection-exprs as a common way to create collections. Not a nice syntax to create any arbitrary type. But i am open to this sort of relaxation because... well... it doesn't seem like it would harm anything.

[RikkiGibson]

I thought one intended use of CollectionBuilder was to allow creation of ref structs from collection-exprs. Is that not the case? SharpLab

using System;
using System.Runtime.CompilerServices;

[CollectionBuilder(typeof(RS), nameof(RS.Create))]
public ref struct RS {
    public RS Create(ReadOnlySpan<int> items) => throw null!;
    public static void M() {
        RS rs1 = [1, 2, 3]; // error CS9188: 'RS' has a CollectionBuilderAttribute but no element type.
    }
}

[cston]

I thought one intended use of CollectionBuilder was to allow creation of ref structs from collection-exprs. Is that not the case?

It should be possible to create a ref struct collection with a pattern-based GetEnumerator() method (see sharplab.io).

[CollectionBuilder(typeof(MyCollectionBuilder), nameof(MyCollectionBuilder.Create))]
public ref struct MyCollection<T>
{
    private readonly List<T> _list;
    public MyCollection(List<T> list) { _list = list; }
    public IEnumerator<T> GetEnumerator() => _list.GetEnumerator();
}

[timcassell]

It would also be nice to relax the restriction for old style collection initializer syntax. An example where I wrote a class for a write-only collection initializer (before collection expressions existed): https://github.com/timcassell/ProtoBenchmarkHelpers#BenchmarkThreadHelper

[gulbanana]

There was a community request for this exact issue description at #7398 (reply in thread).

Yep, I'd like to use CollectionBuilder (or some equivalent api) on a collection representing an ORM query. It's writeonly, as above - the query can be default-constructed and have elements added, but you can't iterate it until you've performed an async load or save.