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Deadlock989 avatar Deadlock989 commented on June 24, 2024 1

The "copper" starting tech setting will include a steam derrick in the next version, but I don't currently have a timescale for release.

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Deadlock989 avatar Deadlock989 commented on June 24, 2024

Ref: #112 - basically my feelings about this haven't changed since then.

It wouldn't be any real work for me to add a steam derrick to the "copper age" starter kit and I have no objection to doing that in principle. (But I don't want to add anything to the "stone age" kit.) However, the Lazy Bastard achievement is currently disabled. If I re-enable it, I'll be back to square one where people are complaining that Lazy Bastard is impossible on default settings. The proper way to "fix" Lazy Bastard is the same as before - someone needs to work out the minimum number of handcrafts needed to bootstrap a large assembler with the default starter kit, and then the Lazy Bastard achievement can be updated properly so that it always works. But that someone is not me.

If you're not talking about Lazy Bastard and just want a self-set challenge where zero handcrafting is possible, then I'm happy to add a steam derrick to the "copper" setting (it would most likely end up in all the non-default settings).

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rlundy avatar rlundy commented on June 24, 2024

I don't guess I care a lot about the achievement...though it was with IR2 that I first got it; I've never had the patience to do it on vanilla.

I enjoy a play style of handcrafting nothing, if possible. In IR2 with the starter kit I could do that, but in IR3 it's unfortunately not possible. That's really what I'm looking for. I guess another option would be a small add-on mod that would modify the starting items to include the things I've identified above, but I don't know much about Factorio modding and don't have a lot of spare time to learn.

Well, OK, to be fair, if I have the time to play Factorio, how can I say I don't have the time to learn to mod Factorio? 😁

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