Quake Mods With quake.rc lacking "exec default.cfg" about darkplaces

[ladyhavoc]

Quake mods that lack default.cfg in their quake.rc already broke in stock quake, there's no change in behavior here other than some engine defaults possibly not triggering, so why was that mod made broken to begin with?

[Baker7]

The Quake Remaster doesn't exec default.cfg either.

[Baker7]

This is what I said when I realized the cause ...

The smej quake.rc file is at fault.

It does not run default.cfg

And it is supposed to.

But I thought about it, and I had to decide whether or not I wanted every mod with this issue to malfunction or if I just wanted it "to work".

[ladyhavoc]

I think the best strategy is to run default.cfg and post a warning (in red text perhaps?) in the console saying the engine is working around a bug in the mod as exec default.cfg is required for normal operation, if you really want to avoid default.cfg then please make an empty one.

[Baker7]

I think not executing a default.cfg is the "new normal".

Consider this ...

1. Johnny has "Quake Remastered".
2. Johnny installs a gamedir mod with only a progs.dat and a map.
3. Since "Quake Remastered" does not execute default.cfg and the mod with a progs.dat does not supply a quake.rc

Where is the "exec default.cfg" supposed to come from?

Because it isn't in Quake Remastered -- and for some people that is the "new Quake".
And the mod is just a progs.dat

[ladyhavoc]

But if there is no quake.rc in a mod, it still runs the quake.rc in id1, as it falls back to that one, and quake.rc is what specifies the startdemos command, which is the only way to trigger that on startup. The fact that quake.rc also contains the stuffcmds (which runs the commandline options beginning with +) is more of a curiosity. So a lot of mods include a quake.rc specifically to remove the startdemos command because they have no demos to show, but they intend to have all other behaviors in place.

[Baker7]

I don't know. Thinking about it more, it really is a smej "issue".

I just opened the re-release folder and looked around. It does have a quake.rc and it does exec default.cfg, it just does not come with a default.cfg (go figure.)

[Yes it is true, Quake Remastered does not have a default.cfg -- Quakespasm overcomes this by providing its own default.cfg in the engine.]

My goal was to document and share the details of the investigation into the solid cobwebs and solid waterwall, because it was very difficult to unravel.