Doran Commander not in the Bot about asoiaf-tmg-discord-bot

[TankVIIRaven]

Hey,
that was me on reddit :)

To "Researching the best up-to-date source on new cards"
There are 3 builders out there right now.
asoiaf-stats.com/builder
builder.asoiaf.fr
asoiafbuilder.com

The asoiaf-stats builder is not the fastest when it comes to up to date cards, but the most reliable to have everything implemented correctly.

The french builder (builder.asoiaf.fr) is mostly the fastest/second fastest when it comes to updates, amd most often reliable too.
Sometimes the new cards are only available through the french version, but they still use the english cards.

asoiafbuilder.com is also fast (cause they get he stuff from Cmon most of the times). But there are often mistakes in the implementation (like Tyene Sand beeing an Attachment there, while being an NCU).

To "Adding every missing Martell card"
I just tried out every Martell cards and if they are implemented through the Bot.
These cards are missing + all of the special cards (Watergarden, Stangler (Poison), Manticore Venom (Poison))

Harmen Uller (both)
Obara Sand (both)
Spearmen Captain
Areo Hotah (both)
Elia Sand
Doran Martell (Commander)
Nymeria Sand (both)
Oberyn Martell (NCU)
Tyene Sand (NCU)
Harmen Uller - all Tacticscards
Obara - all Tacticscards

Hope that helps you :)

[brianchuchua]

Thanks, @TankVIIRaven -- I need to find a more up-to-date source on the latest spoilers to ensure I keep up with the new cards. :)

I received similar feedback on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafminiaturesgame/comments/wxxi0y/comment/ilvfr01/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I'll use this issue to represent:

• Researching the best up-to-date source on new cards
• Adding every missing Martell card
• Adding every miscellaneous card I'm missing

[brianchuchua]

Thanks, @TankVIIRaven , that was very helpful. :)

builder.asoiaf.fr in particular is ahead of the game in terms of having images available for the front-and-back of the cards.

I'll perform a full audit soon of all the sources, including your compiled list and digging up all of the miscellaneous cards that should be included.

I'll also need to arrange my own image hosting for these images since they aren't on the On The Table Gaming server, which is what ASOIAFBuilder uses and what I'm currently using (I reached out to ask for permission).

Stay tuned!

[brianchuchua]

Hosting secured -- my images will live in URLs like this:
https://asoiaf-tmg-discord-bot.s3.amazonaws.com/images/hm-sunspear-royal-guard-back.png

[brianchuchua]

I'm having to manually edit JPGs to PNGs and introduce my own transparency around the card borders based on some of the current images available. This'll take a little bit more time.

[brianchuchua]

Card Audit

(✅ = it's in the bot already)

Sources:

• asoiaf-stats.com/builder
• builder.asoiaf.fr
• asoiafbuilder.com

The data is scattered across all three unfortunately. 😐

Martells

Combat Units

• ✅ Martell Spearmen
• ✅ Sand Skirmishers
• ✅ Sunspear Dervishes
• ✅ Sunspear Royal Guard (back image was missing, uploaded my own in the next build)
• ✅ There appear to be no missing cards from this category.

Attachments

• ✅ Dervish Captain
• ✅ Oberyn Martell - Prince Of Dorne (Commander)
• ✅ Oberyn Martell - Red Viper
• ✅ Spearlord
• Areo Hotah - Captain Of The Guard (Commander)
• Areo Hotah - Dutiful Juggernaut
• Elia Sand
• Harmen Uller - Lord of Hellholt (Commander)
• Harmen Uller - Dornish Envoy
• Obara Sand - Eldest Sister (Commander)
• Obara Sand - Sand Snake
• Spearmen Captain
• Nymeria Sand - Sand Snake

Non-Combat Units

• ✅ Doran Martell - Prince Of Dorne
• Doran Martell - Lord of Sunspear (Commander)
• ✅ Ellaria Sand - Viper's Paramour
• Oberyn Martell - Prince of Dorne
• Tyene Sand - Septa's Daughter
• Nymeria Sand - Lady Nym

Opponent Attachments

• Manticore Venom (listed with the other Oberyn Martell - Prince Of Dorne cards)
• The Strangler (listed with Tyene Sand - Septa's Daughter on asoiaf.fr)

Tactics Cards

• ✅ House Martell Tactics Cards
  • ✅ Cunning Ploy - Martell
  • ✅ Dune Tactics
  • ✅ Rhoynish Vengeance
  • ✅ Rising Temperatures
  • ✅ Sand Diplomacy
  • ✅ Superior Positioning - Martell
  • ✅ Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken
• ✅ Oberyn Martell Tactics Cards
  • ✅ Viper's Infamy
  • ✅ Unexpected Exhaustion
  • ✅ Intercept Orders - Oberyn Martell
• Harmen Uller Tactics Cards
  • Set For Charge - Harmen Uller
  • Battle Endurance - Harmen Uller
  • Spiteful Truce
• Obara Sand Tactics Cards
  • Reckless Strikes - Obara Sand
  • Desert Preparation
  • Sustained Assault - Obara Sand
• Doran Martell Tactics Cards
  • Ripe To Act - Doran Martell
  • Parlay - Doran Martell
  • False Agenda - Doran Martell

Special Cards

• Poison (listed with the other Oberyn Martell - Prince Of Dorne cards) (What category should I include this in? A new one?)
• Water Gardens (listed with Doran Martell - Prince Of Dorne on asoiaf.fr) (New category? Tactics Zone?)
• Lord of Sunspear (Doran Martell explanation card)

Other Special Cards for non-Martell Factions

• House of the Undying (need to get a good picture of this, comes with Pyat Pree in the Targaryen Heroes 1 box)
• Secret Mission and Objective Cards - https://asoif.s3.amazonaws.com/pdf/pdf/pdf/159/Secret_Mission_and_Objective_Cards_v2021_Print.pdf -- I'll have to chop these up into images myself.
• Castle Walls cards - need to find if these changed in 2021 and get images or scan them myself

I'll get to work on these. :)

[brianchuchua]

Choosing to skip the generic "Poison" card since it's not listed everywhere. I can't find what uses it as opposed to the Manticore Venom.

[brianchuchua]

Skipping Secret Mission and Objective Cards and Castle Wall cards. No one asked for them and they may be of marginal use in the context of Discord chat.

If someone asks for it, I'll make a separate issue for it. :)

[brianchuchua]

This is now live. :) Thanks for the feedback, @TankVIIRaven