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Breakthrough avatar Breakthrough commented on July 2, 2024

Very interesting approach. Have you given some thought to benchmarking it versus Albanie's shot detection benchmarks to see how it performs?

It would be quite interesting to have some additional detection techniques in PySceneDetect for sure. I haven't had much time to keep up with the project lately, but I'm always open to pull requests!

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Breakthrough avatar Breakthrough commented on July 2, 2024

Also @r1b, this definitely does seem to be a sound approach - there is plenty of literature referencing this method.

I will have to do some more research into your work, but definitely plan to get started on something like this in the future. I have added this to the backlog of issues, indicating it will be worked on for the next major release of PySceneDetect following v0.5 (the project is almost done a heavy refactor which should make developing detectors much easier).

Also just curious, what is your development environment like? I'm not too familiar with Python notebooks, but some of the analysis (esp. with regards to the graphs) would be immensely useful. Just curious what you're using, if it's an interactive environment.

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r1b avatar r1b commented on July 2, 2024

Wonderful! When I have some free time I will play with it some more. I am using Jupyter as a development environment to take advantage of the inline plotting & exploratory workflow. Usually I use matplotlib for plots but here I use Seaborn mostly just to use distplot (but I also think they look nicer).

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Breakthrough avatar Breakthrough commented on July 2, 2024

Thank you for the references @r1b , will definitely be checking out Jupyter. Thank you also for the proof of concept, had some time to look into it briefly and will be following up on this after v0.5 is released. One thing I'm experimenting with is automatic threshold detection for the content/threshold detectors, and had a few high-level questions if you don't mind me picking your brain.


I noticed in your notebook that you're using the equation for threshold T = μ + ασ, where μ is the mean, σ is the standard deviation, and α is a constant set to 5.

Just curious, how did you arrive at a value of α = 5? Does it need to be adjusted for different types of source material?


For the histogram itself, have you experimented at all with changing the number of frequency bins in the histograms, or generating the colour code in HSV space instead of RGB? Just trying to flesh out the design by trying to get a feel for what options need to be presented to the user when calling detect-histogram, and what the exact equations/algorithms need to be in place.

I'm trying to use the same equation to automatically generate T for the ContentDetector algorithm, but I can't seem to find a good value for α that works across a good number of source material - specifically when dealing with shorter clips. I was also wondering if you had any ideas for approaching computing a good value for α (or if another equation would be better in this case) for the ContentDetector, which computes a single HSV-based frame score.

Also, feel to check out the upcoming API if you have a minute, any feedback you might have is most welcome.

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