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ablwr avatar ablwr commented on August 19, 2024 1

@digitensions you found it so you get to name it ;) Is that how it works?

I'd love for you to add it to the AVAA! I feel like you are well savvy enough to do it on your own, but send me a message if you have any troubles.

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DigitzOp avatar DigitzOp commented on August 19, 2024 1

Could possibly be a 1” DT (dynamic tracking) head issue but I suspect more likely some longitudinal damage on tape, not a scratch but maybe a slight crease or stretch causing head to tape velocity and contact changes across the head sweep giving tbc and DT a hard time. If the position of the tape defect varies with respect to distance to top and bottom edge of tape it would appear at different places on every head sweep hence the vertical wandering of the visible defect. Difficult to tell for sure without access to source tape ( to see if fault is repeatable on every playback).

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ablwr avatar ablwr commented on August 19, 2024 1

Yesssssss!!

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kieranjol avatar kieranjol commented on August 19, 2024

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iamdamosuzuki avatar iamdamosuzuki commented on August 19, 2024

This looks like some sort of tape damage or tape wear to me. Are the heads making any noise as if they're running against distortions in the tape? Does this error continue throughout the entire program? Is the RF meter moving up and down on the deck?

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digitensions avatar digitensions commented on August 19, 2024

It was captured in 2012 by a vendor. It remains consistent all the way through the capture 22 minutes, without ceasing, but varying in height/drop. It's wave like, it couldn't be electrical? You can see more clearly a stretch in the image with picture, I'll upload a short capture I just made with oscilloscope from QCTools - that may help

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digitensions avatar digitensions commented on August 19, 2024

https://archive.org/details/Oscilloscope2

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iamdamosuzuki avatar iamdamosuzuki commented on August 19, 2024

This is pretty interesting. From the second example it's clear that it's not a physical thing because it's too regular. I think you're right in your assumption that it's some sort of electrical or interference issue, but usually those get superimposed on the image rather than more the image around. Your second example I think makes the error very clear. I'll send it to folks who might now!

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digitensions avatar digitensions commented on August 19, 2024

Awesome thanks. I've not seen anything like it in 25 years of video tape capturing/copying! I'd be glad to hear what they think :) and if it's particular to one inch, which I have very little knowledge of.

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digitensions avatar digitensions commented on August 19, 2024

I've checked the uncompressed version and the fault is easier to see so I've added an example in case anyone can identify it @iamdamosuzuki

https://archive.org/details/extract_201906

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digitensions avatar digitensions commented on August 19, 2024

Was going to wait for some verdict before I add it Ashley, but I am happy to yes! Thank you for the invite and expect incoming :)

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ablwr avatar ablwr commented on August 19, 2024

You are an expert @digitensions :)

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digitensions avatar digitensions commented on August 19, 2024

I'll see if I can get my hands on the tape to check for creases/signs of wear and report back. Thank you for the commend though @DigitzOp

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audiovisualopen avatar audiovisualopen commented on August 19, 2024

Yes, would be great to see the original tape if possible. Might also be an alignment issue with the tape running across the heads due to poor machine calibration, or physical defect of the tape itself (such as scalloping)

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digitensions avatar digitensions commented on August 19, 2024

I’ll try but it may not be possible. The capture prior to and after this one appear absolutely fine which would support a fault with the tape I suppose. Many thanks!

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digitensions avatar digitensions commented on August 19, 2024

Following NTTW4, this item was positively diagnosed as having a TBC error - this wave pattern having been seen before on one an two inch open reel formats. I've popped in a PR on the TBC page to include this item if you think it's appropiate, and happy to close the issue if all agree :)

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digitensions avatar digitensions commented on August 19, 2024

Done and thanks @ablwr. Hope it's okay, feedback gratefully received. Pleased to close this as I'll never get a chance to see that tape now!

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