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nschneid avatar nschneid commented on July 4, 2024
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nschneid avatar nschneid commented on July 4, 2024

The editor help pages for :degree and :extent are minimal, and in postediting there seems to be some disagreement. Here's a proposal:

  • Limit :extent to spatial distances (or idioms that use these metaphorically, like a long way).
  • Specify that :degree also applies to degree modifiers (intensifiers/downtoners):
(s / sad
  :degree (k / kind-of)
  :domain (h / he))

He is kind of sad.

(s / sad
  :degree (t / too :degree (m / much))
  :domain (h / he))

He is much too sad.

  • Give an example with degree of event completion/success:
(d / destroy-01 
  :degree (u / utter))

utterly destroyed

  • Clarify that :quant is appropriate for more, less, etc. modifying a noun:
(s / school
  :quant (m / most))

most schools

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uhermjakob avatar uhermjakob commented on July 4, 2024

Thanks. I greatly expanded the help page for :degree (as well its tooltip on the roles page).

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nschneid avatar nschneid commented on July 4, 2024

Great. One question—you have

(e / expensive
           :domain (c / car)
           :degree (t / too
                 :quant (m / much)))

The car is much too expensive.

I'm not sure I understand the argument for :quant. What if it were "far too expensive" or "vastly too expensive"?

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uhermjakob avatar uhermjakob commented on July 4, 2024

It's in analogy to what we have for "decades later" and "a week earlier",
a quantification of degree/comparative. The car costs $5,000 too much for me.
But I'll think about some more.

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nschneid avatar nschneid commented on July 4, 2024

As suggested in the original post, I think a few consensus sentences need revising:

  • :mod more should be :quant more:
    • wb.eng_0003.10 more money: :mod more
    • wb.eng_0003.61 more travel: [travel-01 :mod more]
    • wb.eng_0003.77 more places: [place :mod more]
  • :degree further: should this be :extent further (metaphorical distance)?
    • isi_0002.102 supply will rise further: [rise-01 :degree further]
    • nw.wsj_0004.1 further declines: [decline-01 :degree further]
  • :degree should be :quant (I think):
    • wb.eng_0003.61 put the least stress on the system: [stress :degree least]
    • wb.eng_0003.76 get maximum use out of our investment: [use-01 :degree maximum]
    • wb.eng_0003.83 heavy demands: [demand-01 :degree heavy]
    • msnbc_0001.2 police are facing more rowdy behavior: [rowdy :degree more]
      • i.e., rowdier behavior; I think the more likely reading is a greater amount of rowdy behavior, so [behave-01 :quant rowdy]

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