Invalid data for collections from a frame indexed in the same line in python about podio

[tmadlener]

Does this work on the c++ side? In principle it should as everything should live until the end of the statement. But in this case we create a temporary frame, from which we get a const & to a collection on which we then call size, so I am not entirely sure.

[jmcarcell]

Yes, on C++ there aren't any surprises and you can do everything in one line. But here frames[0] not being alive before the line ends seems unexpected.

[wlav]

C++ and Python have different rules for temporaries: C++ guarantees that the lifetime of temporaries is at least until the end of the statement; in Python, temporaries go away whenever the reference count returns to zero, which may be in the middle of a long statement. If a C++ method returns something by reference to data that lives in a temporary object (that came to be from a different function call, say, in the long statement), then that data may go away before the end of life of the reference.

cppyy tries to set "lifelines" from such references onto the object that holds the data by checking whether the reference points to somewhere within the object on which the method was called. This automatic system would fail if the reference is to something that is not part of the temporary, but is still controlled by that temporary. E.g. if the reference points into data that is held by pointer by the object.