poe.com banning accounts using this script about poe-api

[Jxells]

[doevent]

same

[shayneoneill]

Yo Poe people, if your reading this, give us an official API and people wont have to sneak through the side window!

Theres money to be made in this.

[Jxells]

There is no way to generate a new token because none of the official websites can be logged in. No custom bots are used

[alfiae]

all of my 3 accounts banned...

i've gone through 5 accounts :(

[kokubunji]

I just got an account banned not using this API while experimenting with an idea to see how well ChatGPT could use a fictional API, so I think they're using some sort of classifier to detect activity they don't like. Which is a shame. I was going to become a subscriber. They should offer a paid service and let people use it how they like.

[abhiprojectz]

@juzeon Its because the Poe added a custom security layer and even if you use free VPN nothing going to happen, you may go for paid VPNs too but again you will eventually gets banned after few requests.

This is a major issue to overcome, just use the browser (No selenium or headless, gets detected) and you are good to go even with some tuning and you may send unlimited requests no need to use any random timeout.

I am using single SingularGPT in cloud and that's just works fine.

If anyone interested, i may put up the preset used.

[acheong08]

Regarding @xtekky's attempt at tls spoofing, it probably failed because

1. TLS fingerprints of >= Chrome/Firefox 110 can be detected from tls spoofing libraries. Lower versions are probably better
2. There is no way to spoof tls for websockets in Python. I doubt he wrote a custom library for that.

If even that doesn't fix detection, perhaps it's behavioral. I'm testing if I get banned right now by running it in a loop.

[abhiprojectz]

Hey guys, i am creating a fully automated version for Poe, It will be undetectable and fast.

It can bypass any Cloudflare or even CAPTCHA's protected site.

Till know i can't find any opensource alternative for both Cloudflare & captcha's...

If anyone want it then leave a reply so i can know how many are interested for it.

[acheong08]

No ban on my end yet after using tls spoofing and other fingerprints

[TheLime1]

@kwekewk nope , even after deleting it stay there , deleted

[DanielShemesh]

There might also be some kind of rate limit that helps their detection

[dm-vev]

if you send a lot of requests to bots, you can get banned. I personally do not have very many requests per minute and the account worked until I had to process more than 20 requests per minute. this led to an instant ban on my account

[doevent]

Set limits:
Message counter per minute
Message counter per hour

[doevent]

A week without a ban with a random delay between requests

from random import randrange

timer = randrange(100, 120)
time.sleep(timer)

[juzeon]

Poe seems to be requiring the clientNonce variable when submitting messages, and I currently don't know how it is generated. Maybe it has something to do with reCAPTCHA?

I've investigated into it before. This is just a random string. Here's the related code:

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This comes from https://poe.com/_next/static/chunks/6049-569b4d62938e254f.js. I'm not sure if this url will change every time they re-compile the web app.

[TheLime1]

still works for me

[Jxells]

23/5000
After more than one session, an error was reported and I could not log in through the browser

[TheLime1]

@Jxells tried regen a new token ?
and are you using a custom bot ?

[TheLime1]

it work for me , i think you got ip blacklisted ??

[ading2210]

Does it work fine if you use a different IP through a VPN?

[Jxells]

Does it work fine if you use a different IP through a VPN?

I have tried to switch to other ip or vpn, but the problem has not been solved

[ball2004244]

I have the same problems

[de-joit]

Same problem, cleaned cookies in browser, used vpn, incognito mode. Nothing. Guess got banned

[ading2210]

Same problem, cleaned cookies in browser, used vpn, incognito mode. Nothing. Guess got banned
@de-joit

Have you tried using a different browser and OS? Perhaps they're using browser fingerprinting in order to try and stop the creation of extra accounts?

[doevent]

Have you tried using a different browser and OS? Perhaps they're using browser fingerprinting in order to try and stop the creation of extra accounts?

A new account is created, but it gets banned after a few hours.

[Jxells]

您是否尝试过使用不同的浏览器和操作系统？也许他们正在使用浏览器指纹识别来尝试阻止额外帐户的创建？

创建了一个新帐户，但几个小时后就被禁止了。
Me too.

[ading2210]

Version 0.3.1 adds the ability to set more custom headers, which should reduce the chances of the library being detected.

[kwekewk]

it work for me , i think you got ip blacklisted ??

Sorry for oot, can you delete that bot from ur list?

[Jxells]

Version 0.3.1 adds the ability to set more custom headers, which should reduce the chances of the library being detected.

The account will still be banned

[aloasut]

今天升级了一下使用，30分钟以后号给ban了。

[xtekky]

@ading2210 they are logging something, have used tls / proxy, full params and sig, throttling and they seem to detect somehow

[sxdden]

same problem here, account gets banned within maybe 2 minutes.. cant even create a new account now. tried a different os, proxy, different browser, and a lot more... idk if its related to this issue though lol

[cande1gut]

I think is a combination of both, rate and browser. I just hit the same problem with 2 different accounts (one through VPN tho).

[swarfte]

It look like the Poe have some method to detect which account used this library

[Barbery]

same

[dm-vev]

all of my 3 accounts banned...

:(

[doevent]

all of my 3 accounts banned...

:(

Use a wait of 120 seconds between requests

[mnwato]

same

[mnwato]

This is a huge delay. with this situation I think selenium could do better

[ading2210]

Poe seems to be requiring the clientNonce variable when submitting messages, and I currently don't know how it is generated. Maybe it has something to do with reCAPTCHA?

[abhiprojectz]

@swarfte

it look like the Poe have some method to detect which account used this library

No, they just detects whether the request is made from a browser or not ? They uses a cloudflare based checklist cookie/token to detect, at few requests.

That's why this gets blocked , even the FreeGPT4 project by **@xtekky ** also not working.

Just simply automate it using SingularGPT , the easiest and safest mode.

[hansfzlorenzana]

I tried adding delay per request but I still got banned. Any other fix?

[abhiprojectz]

@hansfzlorenzana I mentioned , Automate browser and everything will work fine. You may write your custom automation scripts but that will consume time and often errors.

Instead SingularGPT automates quickly.

[acheong08]

Regarding the bans, have you guys tried tls spoofing?

[acheong08]

TLS fingerprints are a reliable way to find bots based on whether they use a browser or from code. This happened with ChatGPT a while back

[ading2210]

Regarding the bans, have you guys tried tls spoofing?
@acheong08

I actually haven't tried that, altho @xtekky has and apparently it didn't work.

[ading2210]

An alternative would be to rewrite this to use Selenium + a web browser, but that introduces a LOT of overhead which I'd prefer not tho have.

[abhiprojectz]

@ading2210 Poe basically can detect request from selenium browser session , and you will get banned.

That's why i suggested to automate the browser itself, above there,

Automate browser and everything will work fine. You may write your custom automation scripts but that will consume time and often errors.
Instead SingularGPT automates quickly.

You could do this easily with SingularGPT - For anyone curious its a GPT based project to automate device via GPT. with just a text query as :

Prompt: Send query as "Hello chatgpt" and wait for the response, then check if there is some message below the queried text, Your task is to get the text element under it, for that double right click mouse , then select text Inspect element. Press keys ctrl + c , then close press keys Ctrl + Shift + I.

Just put it under a function with a command, Load preset "chrome/GPT".

[acheong08]

@abhiprojectz That is way slower and not exact the point of this library.

If it can indeed detect selenium, an easier way is to write a browser extension that plugs into an actual browser. (e.g. https://github.com/acheong08/ChatGPT-API-agent for ChatGPT)

But even that is probably unnecessary. Check out https://github.com/ultrafunkamsterdam/undetected-chromedriver

[acheong08]

sdid looks somewhat interesting

[acheong08]

It's in local storage and I have no idea what assigned it

[acheong08]

It stands for global_singular_id

[acheong08]

It seems to be persistent even if I delete it from local/session storage

[acheong08]

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[acheong08]

https://support.singular.net/hc/en-us/articles/360039991491-Singular-Website-SDK-Native-Integration

[lazezo2]

got panned to after a few request..
any idea?

[ading2210]

This has hopefully been fixed in v0.4.0.

[Jxells]

Hey guys, i am creating a fully automated version for Poe, It will be undetectable and fast.

It can bypass any Cloudflare or even CAPTCHA's protected site.

Till know i can't find any opensource alternative for both Cloudflare & captcha's...

If anyone want it then leave a reply so i can know how many are interested for it.

good

[lazezo2]

Any one can confirm fixed in v0.4.0?

[lazezo2]

No ban for me too after day of working, but as safety i am using delay time between request with random number...

[Pan-zc]

No ban for me too after day of working, but as safety i am using delay time between request with random number...

delay time for how long?

[lazezo2]

No ban for me too after day of working, but as safety i am using delay time between request with random number...

delay time for how long?

i used around 1 minute delay time