Follow-up discussion on New Project Proposal - Pillow about tac

[jmertic]

Meeting info is at https://tac.aswf.io/meetings/#meetings

[jmertic]

Hi @aclark4life - if you want to pursue the unfunded LF project route, please email me at jmertic at linuxfoundation dot org and I can connect you with the formation team on next steps.

Closing this one for now.

[jmertic]

@aclark4life - please confirm if you can present at the TAC meeting on Wednesday ( 3/20 ).

[aclark4life]

@aclark4life - please confirm if you can present at the TAC meeting on Wednesday ( 3/20 ).

Can do! Although I don't have any meeting details yet. I am on EDT. Thanks

[aclark4life]

Cool so 4:00PM EDT, see you then.

[aclark4life]

Hey folks no PDF or PPT yet but you can check out my Reveal.js presentation if you are interested, see you in a few: https://github.com/python-pillow/pillow-aswf

[aclark4life]

Thanks for the meeting, folks!

One obvious counterpoint to @carolalynn22 's comment about OpenImageIO's overlapping feature set would be that if OIIO was the go to for every image processing need in VFX pipelines then Pillow would not be there at all.

It's there perhaps because it's much "lighter" than OpenImageIO most notably in that OpenImageIO is VFX-specific whereas Pillow is not. Additionally, I wonder if the argument that once OIIO wheels are ubiquitous then Pillow usage will drop. I don't know enough about VFX to guess about that but seems like a possibility. 🤷

That said, I already agree with @carolalynn22 's point about alignment and, given that Pillow is not VFX software, you can make a very strong argument that Pillow is not in alignment with the ASWF and therefore should not be supported, by the ASWF at least. Other LF umbrellas may apply.

[aclark4life]

PDF

[jmertic]

Hi @aclark4life - the TAC discussed this today and was wondering if you saw alignment with other ASWF projects and/or if there was an ASWF member who would be willing to support this work with resources. Let us know your thoughts.

One possibility could be to bring the project into the LF as an unfunded project if you are looking for a neutral home for collaboration. Happy to discuss that further if it is of interest.

[aclark4life]

Thank you @jmertic and TAC, will discuss with @python-pillow team.

The only alignment I see is with @lgritz and OIIO, but I wouldn't ask for any resources in that case. Right now I'm interested in writing enough C (or finding someone to help me write enough C) to satisfy this long-standing Pillow issue and make Pillow more useful for GIS, VFX and ML industries, as described here, here and here.

If being an unfunded LF project helps with that, then maybe. I think it's fair to say that I'd like to raise awareness about Pillow's development process and I definitely appreciate the suggestion. If you'd be willing to meet again to discuss further, let me know. Thank you again @jmertic and TAC, I appreciate all of your time and consideration.